Title: 2.5 admin backend annoying
Last modified: August 19, 2016

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# 2.5 admin backend annoying

 *  [xanathon](https://wordpress.org/support/users/xanathon/)
 * (@xanathon)
 * [18 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/25-admin-backend-annoying/)
 * I have to admit, that I’m heavily annoyed by the way the 2.5 admin turned out.
   I’m using WordPress for years now and with every update it got better. But this
   one is a step back, by graphic design as by functionality.
 * Drag’n’drop widgets gone. Huzzah! back to olden days…
    Admin-GUI by no means 
   more accessible or more ordered, you find nothing
 * And my biggest concern is the new post-GUI: EVERYTHING lined up in one row? gimme
   a break! categories UNDER the post, so i have to scroll? Image-insertion in a
   popup??? You cannot be serious?
 * I installed Fluency to get the admin panel a little more bearable, but I will
   definitely go back to 2.3.3, I certainly hope there will be security-updates 
   for that version. If not, I will probably switch to another software altogether.
 * A pity, since I tested quite some blog softwares and WordPress was my favourite…

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 *  [Stephanie Leary](https://wordpress.org/support/users/sillybean/)
 * (@sillybean)
 * [18 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/25-admin-backend-annoying/page/11/#post-723300)
 * FYI, we’ve now been told that Trac isn’t the right place for our discussion, 
   either. [My original ticket has been marked a duplicate of the later one](http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/6635),
   and [that one has been closed with the comment that it should be taken the Ideas forum](http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/6709).
 * God, how frustrating this is.
 *  [jabecker](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jabecker/)
 * (@jabecker)
 * [18 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/25-admin-backend-annoying/page/11/#post-723302)
 * Please see this discussion also: [http://wordpress.org/support/topic/169595](http://wordpress.org/support/topic/169595)
 *  [zigzag](https://wordpress.org/support/users/zigzag/)
 * (@zigzag)
 * [18 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/25-admin-backend-annoying/page/11/#post-723305)
 * I’m in total agreement, the new back end is very annoying. It’s not a matter 
   of getting used to it as I am used to it now :0) but everything takes a lot longer
   to do now, nothings intuitive and every thing’s all over the place, over complicated
   and laden down with lashings of oh so sloooowwww javascript.
 *  [Sapphire](https://wordpress.org/support/users/sapphire/)
 * (@sapphire)
 * [18 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/25-admin-backend-annoying/page/11/#post-723312)
 * I’m trying to come up with a patch or something that would change the “Manage
   Posts” page in a couple of ways. First, just by copying the version of /wp-admin/
   edit.php from 2.3.3, I got back the option to sort posts by author, which is 
   hella important for the admin of a multi-author blog. Yay!
 * What I did not get back is the old method of displaying the date, which included
   the exact hour and minute the post was published. I need this feature for future
   posting, so I don’t accidentally put two posts within minutes of each other. 
   But if the old edit-page didn’t bring it back, that leads me to think the dev
   team has changed the actual function that calls the time and date. I’m pretty
   ignorant about php coding, so correct me if I’m wrong.
 * What I can’t figure out is which function to edit, or even if it IS a function
   that’s changed the behavior, or what. Can anyone give me even a hint of what 
   I’m looking for?
 * Thanks.
 *  [Sapphire](https://wordpress.org/support/users/sapphire/)
 * (@sapphire)
 * [18 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/25-admin-backend-annoying/page/11/#post-723316)
 * Ha! Never mind. I found it: download this and replace your /wp-admin/edit-post-
   rows.php with it:
 * [Sapphire’s Edit Post Rows Patch](http://bluemushrooms.com/sapphire-edit-post-rows.zip)
 * I’m continuing to read about writing plugins, but so far I just don’t get precisely
   what I need to do to make things like this into one. I’ll keep trying!
 *  [Sapphire](https://wordpress.org/support/users/sapphire/)
 * (@sapphire)
 * [18 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/25-admin-backend-annoying/page/11/#post-723317)
 * Ignore this post. I thought the above patch wasn’t working (and, in fact, it 
   wasn’t), but I fixed it now.
 * You know, going into the code, I’m surprised 2.5 seems any faster, because the
   code seems a lot more bloated. I had thought maybe we were losing features to
   increase speed, but it just looks like a lose-lose situation to me now.
 * I’m trying to make this into a plugin, but not having much luck. You can read
   about that here:
 * [http://wordpress.org/support/topic/170201?replies=1#post-738271](http://wordpress.org/support/topic/170201?replies=1#post-738271)
 * And if anyone can help, I’d obviously share credit.
 *  [gambit37](https://wordpress.org/support/users/gambit37/)
 * (@gambit37)
 * [18 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/25-admin-backend-annoying/page/11/#post-723323)
 * I’m logging in while on holiday — how geeky is that? 🙂
 * I think we need to face the fact that WP 2.5 is now a bit of a turkey for power
   users. Personally, I’m looking at [Symphony](http://21degrees.com.au/products/symphony/)
   now as it’s lean and fast, and it gives me an excuse to finally learn XSLT which
   I’ve been putting off for some time. It won’t be right for most people and you
   need a web-host that supports XSLT, but it looks promising. That and [Textpattern](http://textpattern.com/).
   For larger sites, many people have recommended [Expression Engine](http://expressionengine.com/)
   which I’m looking into and it’s great — though does require a licence for commercial
   use.
 *  [Georg Kevin Paquet](https://wordpress.org/support/users/kevinpaquet/)
 * (@kevinpaquet)
 * [18 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/25-admin-backend-annoying/page/11/#post-723327)
 * WordPress Dev team, hear us.
 * It’s nice and good to know that wp 2.5 is way more secure, but it’s a pain on
   how we bloggers work at the back end T_T
 *  [greasetender](https://wordpress.org/support/users/greasetender/)
 * (@greasetender)
 * [18 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/25-admin-backend-annoying/page/11/#post-723328)
 * I am using the WordPress 2.5 update on one blog and have forgone the update, 
   sticking with WP 2.3.3, for another blog.
 * I am definitely not into WP 2.5. The Dashboard/Admin panel seems to be a regression
   in usability.
 * Thus and so, I am reluctant to upgrade, recalcitrant even. What is to become 
   of my WordPress blogs?! Seriously, how long can I go without upgrading?
 *  [gambit37](https://wordpress.org/support/users/gambit37/)
 * (@gambit37)
 * [18 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/25-admin-backend-annoying/page/11/#post-723331)
 * [@greasetender](https://wordpress.org/support/users/greasetender/): You don’t
   have to continue using WordPress. There are plenty of other options out there.
 *  [reb_76](https://wordpress.org/support/users/reb_76/)
 * (@reb_76)
 * [18 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/25-admin-backend-annoying/page/11/#post-723340)
 * I’m running about 30 wordpress sites for clients right now.
 * 2 of them have the 2.5 upgrade – and I will not upgrade any others until things
   get fixed :/
 *  [chrisdoth](https://wordpress.org/support/users/chrisdoth/)
 * (@chrisdoth)
 * [18 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/25-admin-backend-annoying/page/11/#post-723341)
 * We know there are many other cms solutions out there, but I imagine everyone 
   here really likes wordpress and would like to continue with it. If we didn’t 
   care about it no-one would be posting.
 * If it comes down to it I will re-upgrade to 2.5 but untill it becomes essential
   I’ll put it off as long as I can, it just seems such a step backwards from a 
   general users standpoint which is a real shame.
 *  [whas27](https://wordpress.org/support/users/whas27/)
 * (@whas27)
 * [18 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/25-admin-backend-annoying/page/11/#post-723342)
 * A shame to be overlooking the needs of your most fanatical users…
 * Is there a precedence for WordPress continuing to provide critical security updates
   for older, not upgraded versions? I would hope so.
 * The frequent whole-sale upgrades, none of which are ever quite easy or painless,
   should not be forced upon users to get critical stuff fixed.
 * It would be very easy to say, “here, file XYZ.php, replace this in your distribution”.
   Of course this can be done right now in a roundabout way by watching the dates
   on the updates in the code base, but it would sure be nice for there to be a 
   more user-friendly way.
 * [http://trac.wordpress.org/browser/branches/2.3?order=date&desc=1](http://trac.wordpress.org/browser/branches/2.3?order=date&desc=1)
   (
   and so forth)
 * I personally agree that 2.3.3 should be kept going for as long as possible. Nothing
   wrong with it, many think it might be better than 2.5. Think Vista vs. XP…
 *  [gambit37](https://wordpress.org/support/users/gambit37/)
 * (@gambit37)
 * [18 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/25-admin-backend-annoying/page/11/#post-723343)
 * You all might be interested to know that I emailed Matt Mullenweg asking when
   he was going to make a public comment on these issues. He said:
 * > There has been plenty of discussion on the public developer mailing lists. 
   > Every release of WP generates polar reactions, to be honest 2.5 hasn’t really
   > had any more than we have in the past. We collate the feedback and will be 
   > trying a few different approaches to things like categories that people seem
   > to be having the most trouble with.
 *  [jackuul](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jackuul/)
 * (@jackuul)
 * [18 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/25-admin-backend-annoying/page/11/#post-723354)
 * So, I gather, the upper echelons just don’t give a fork.

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