Title: a bit useless Last modified: September 3, 2016 --- # a bit useless * [Mike V. Gorbunov](https://wordpress.org/support/users/michael_zloi/) * (@michael_zloi) * [10 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-bit-useless/) * works fine only with test mail, but does not support mailing from 3rd party plugins, so it’s useless for me. Viewing 15 replies - 1 through 15 (of 17 total) 1 [2](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-bit-useless/page/2/?output_format=md) [→](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-bit-useless/page/2/?output_format=md) * Plugin Author [Jason Hendriks](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jasonhendriks/) * (@jasonhendriks) * [10 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-bit-useless/#post-8031287) * Hi Michael. Thanks for your review, but I don’t understand. It’s only function is to support mailing from 3rd party plugins. * And I’m pretty sure I didn’t spend hundreds of hours on it for it _not_ to do that. 😉 * [w0rdpr355](https://wordpress.org/support/users/w0rdpr355/) * (@w0rdpr355) * [10 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-bit-useless/#post-8031291) * It works great with plugins ( ones that are coded properly ) * Plugin Author [Jason Hendriks](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jasonhendriks/) * (@jasonhendriks) * [10 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-bit-useless/#post-8031294) * .. and there’s a list of plugins with verified support on the front page. * he’s just trolling 😒 * Thread Starter [Mike V. Gorbunov](https://wordpress.org/support/users/michael_zloi/) * (@michael_zloi) * [10 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-bit-useless/#post-8031297) * I am not trolling. WordPress Database Backup does not work with your plugin, for example. So I swithced back to Easy WP SMTP, which is tiny and simple. * Plugin Author [Jason Hendriks](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jasonhendriks/) * (@jasonhendriks) * [10 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-bit-useless/#post-8031298) * Ya.. because WP DB Backup codes directly to PHPMailer. [There’s a WordPress API for e-mail](https://codex.wordpress.org/Function_Reference/wp_mail) and they don’t use it. * There is no way that is the fault of this plugin. What else have you got? * [http://plugins.svn.wordpress.org/wp-db-backup/tags/2.3.0/wp-db-backup.php](http://plugins.svn.wordpress.org/wp-db-backup/tags/2.3.0/wp-db-backup.php): * ``` // try to use phpmailer directly (WP 2.2+) if ( is_object( $phpmailer ) && ( strtolower(get_class( $phpmailer )) == 'phpmailer' ) ) { $phpmailer->AddAddress( $to ); $phpmailer->AddAttachment($diskfile, $filename); $phpmailer->Body = $message; $phpmailer->CharSet = apply_filters( 'wp_mail_charset', get_bloginfo('charset') ); $phpmailer->From = apply_filters( 'wp_mail_from', $from_email ); $phpmailer->FromName = apply_filters( 'wp_mail_from_name', $from_name ); $phpmailer->IsMail(); $phpmailer->Subject = $subject; do_action_ref_array( 'phpmailer_init', array( &$phpmailer ) ); $result = @$phpmailer->Send(); ``` * Thread Starter [Mike V. Gorbunov](https://wordpress.org/support/users/michael_zloi/) * (@michael_zloi) * [10 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-bit-useless/#post-8031299) * Then why do other SMTP plugins work correctly with WP DB Backup? Easy WP SMTP or BWS SMTP have no problem with it. * Plugin Author [Jason Hendriks](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jasonhendriks/) * (@jasonhendriks) * [10 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-bit-useless/#post-8031300) * There are two classes of SMTP plugins, those that inject your SMTP settings into PHPMailer: - WP Mail SMTP - Easy SMTP - WP Mail Bank - Configure SMTP * And those that replace PHP Mailer with something else: - wp Mandrill - SendGrid - Postman - Cimy Swift * While they _all_ work with wp_mail, WP DB Backup is specifically coded to work with the first group only. That does not mean the second ground should all get 1-Stars. It means WP DB Backup should fix their code. * To send mail in WordPress, use `wp_mail`. Not `@$phpmailer->Send();` * Thread Starter [Mike V. Gorbunov](https://wordpress.org/support/users/michael_zloi/) * (@michael_zloi) * [10 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-bit-useless/#post-8031301) * Thanks for the explanation. Still I think that all the mail plugins must support both features with a switcher for admin to choose. * Plugin Author [Jason Hendriks](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jasonhendriks/) * (@jasonhendriks) * [10 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-bit-useless/#post-8031302) * It’s not a “feature”. It’s a library. Why should the user need to choose which library their 3rd-party plugin supports? **How are they even supposed to know?** * Maybe you missed the part where I wrote **WordPress has an API for sending mail**. * Thread Starter [Mike V. Gorbunov](https://wordpress.org/support/users/michael_zloi/) * (@michael_zloi) * [10 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-bit-useless/#post-8031303) * Whatever it is, it needs to be implemented and described if the plugin is intended to replace standard mailing function. If there are 10 ways of sending mail in WP, a good plugin must support all of them. If it doesn’t, well, it’s useless for me, so we’ve come back to my review. That is my personal point of view, you do not have to agree with me. * Plugin Author [Jason Hendriks](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jasonhendriks/) * (@jasonhendriks) * [10 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-bit-useless/#post-8031304) * I’ve told you three times now. There is only 1 way of sending mail in WP. * If it’s useless for you, then don’t use it. You don’t need to publicly lie about it, reduce the star rating or give ridiculous suggestions like “be like Easy SMTP”. If it was Easy SMTP, it wouldn’t have **200 5-star reviews and only three idiotic trolls**. * Stick with the WP Mail SMTP clones and go away. * [Demi Iv.](https://wordpress.org/support/users/demitriivanderj/) * (@demitriivanderj) * [10 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-bit-useless/#post-8031305) * This plugin works well with well coded plugins * Thread Starter [Mike V. Gorbunov](https://wordpress.org/support/users/michael_zloi/) * (@michael_zloi) * [10 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-bit-useless/#post-8031306) * Pfff, you insult me instead of admitting the fact that I’m right. Yes, other 3rd party plugins may be bad, but they work with other SMTP-plugins, while yours doesn’t. Where did I lie? I’ve written that this plugin doesn’t work for me properly, so I put 1 star. what’s the problem with you? If you have a butthurt that is your own personal problem. * [Demi Iv.](https://wordpress.org/support/users/demitriivanderj/) * (@demitriivanderj) * [10 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-bit-useless/#post-8031307) * [@michael_zloi](https://wordpress.org/support/users/michael_zloi/) * The fact is that rating it 1 star because it doesn’t work with other similar plugins is not reason to leave a negative rating, a neutral rating sounds much more fair because the plugin works as stated. * I am not associated with the authoe. Just sharing my opinion * Thread Starter [Mike V. Gorbunov](https://wordpress.org/support/users/michael_zloi/) * (@michael_zloi) * [10 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/a-bit-useless/#post-8031309) * [@demi](https://wordpress.org/support/users/demi/) Iv. Fully agree with you. The reason why I haven’t changed my rating is just because the author is too aggressive and considers his plugin to be flawless. 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