Title: Beta?
Last modified: July 9, 2018

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# Beta?

 *  Resolved [eaglejohn](https://wordpress.org/support/users/danielbenjamins/)
 * (@danielbenjamins)
 * [7 years, 11 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/beta-4/)
 * Why is there a beta (4.0.0-beta5) available in the normal repository?

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 *  Plugin Contributor [davdebcom](https://wordpress.org/support/users/davdebcom/)
 * (@davdebcom)
 * [7 years, 11 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/beta-4/#post-10477759)
 * Hi John
 * The label is correct, the main reason to use a beta label, is the hope that people
   will pay a bit more attention to the changelog and see that PHP 5.6 is now required.
 * Kind regards
    David
 *  [timbr](https://wordpress.org/support/users/brugman/)
 * (@brugman)
 * [7 years, 11 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/beta-4/#post-10490963)
 * Same question came to mind here. Upgrading from 3.x.x to 4.x.x should be enough
   of a warning, but sure. Thanks David.
 *  Plugin Contributor [davdebcom](https://wordpress.org/support/users/davdebcom/)
 * (@davdebcom)
 * [7 years, 11 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/beta-4/#post-10491228)
 * Well, I would hope so, but not everybody knows about [semver](https://semver.org/).
 *  Thread Starter [eaglejohn](https://wordpress.org/support/users/danielbenjamins/)
 * (@danielbenjamins)
 * [7 years, 11 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/beta-4/#post-10491378)
 * In my case “beta” means don’t update, for live client websites
 *  [digitalmouse](https://wordpress.org/support/users/digitalmouse/)
 * (@digitalmouse)
 * [7 years, 11 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/beta-4/#post-10493040)
 * @eaglejohn
 * Not only in your case ;-).
    This makes things very unclear for me. Should I upgrade
   yes or no? According to our securitypolicy we need to stay on the latest version,
   but beta means to me not ready for production/ can have some serious bugs…
 *  Plugin Contributor [davdebcom](https://wordpress.org/support/users/davdebcom/)
 * (@davdebcom)
 * [7 years, 11 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/beta-4/#post-10493043)
 * It’s simple: you don’t feel confident about it, don’t update and wait for the
   stable.
 * If there was a security update, it would be mentioned in the changelog off course.
   And if a security issue was known before releasing the beta’s, I would have added
   the fix in the previous stable version as a point release.
 *  [digitalmouse](https://wordpress.org/support/users/digitalmouse/)
 * (@digitalmouse)
 * [7 years, 11 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/beta-4/#post-10493065)
 * [@davdebcom](https://wordpress.org/support/users/davdebcom/) Thanks for your 
   quick reply. We will wait for the stable 🙂
    -  This reply was modified 7 years, 11 months ago by [digitalmouse](https://wordpress.org/support/users/digitalmouse/).
 *  [Jos Klever](https://wordpress.org/support/users/josklever/)
 * (@josklever)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/beta-4/#post-10533021)
 * [@davdebcom](https://wordpress.org/support/users/davdebcom/) Why have you marked
   this beta version already as stable in trunk/readme.txt?
 * For more than a month I have 35 sites with available updates that I can’t install.
   Clients are asking questions, are thinking I’m not doing my job or are clicking
   update themselves.
 * I don’t think you are following the plugin developer guidelines and it wouldn’t
   be good for anyone if the plugin was removed for this.
    -  This reply was modified 7 years, 10 months ago by [Jos Klever](https://wordpress.org/support/users/josklever/).
 *  Plugin Contributor [davdebcom](https://wordpress.org/support/users/davdebcom/)
 * (@davdebcom)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/beta-4/#post-10541546)
 * Hi Jos,
 * Is it against the guidelines? I never found a specific rule against it, feel 
   free to point me to the correct article. Wouldn’t want to not follow the guidelines.
 * I actually only found an indirect sentence that seems to communicate that versions
   other then stable are allowed.
    [https://developer.wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-org/detailed-plugin-guidelines/#14-frequent-commits-to-a-plugin-should-be-avoided](https://developer.wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-org/detailed-plugin-guidelines/#14-frequent-commits-to-a-plugin-should-be-avoided)
 * The two remaining issues are: some servers don’t have valid cacert.pem files,
   some sites have conflicts with other plugins that use Guzzle/Composer. Both issues
   will be fixed. I hope to release the stable this week.
 * I hope you understand that I choose to be extra careful when releasing a new 
   major version to 40.000 eCommerce websites.
 * Kind regards
    David
 *  [Jos Klever](https://wordpress.org/support/users/josklever/)
 * (@josklever)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/beta-4/#post-10563501)
 * I didn’t receive a notification, so I’m too late now with my reply, but the first
   line of that rule says “The SVN repository is a release repository, not a development
   one.”
 * You can always commit beta versions, as long as you don’t mark them as “Stable”
   which you did with your beta versions.
 * It’s the first time in years that I experienced this method, so maybe it’s not
   really clear in the rules, but common sense says you don’t mark beta versions
   as stable. Maybe you can contact the Plugins Team yourself to ask for more information
   and to keep out of trouble 😉
 * I’m gonna update 35 sites to 4.0.1 now.

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