Title: cache problems
Last modified: May 24, 2023

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# cache problems

 *  Resolved [HeleneL](https://wordpress.org/support/users/helenel/)
 * (@helenel)
 * [3 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/cache-problems-11/)
 * Hello Jordy.
 * Since the update of AI engine that should solve cache problems, it seems that
   I am having even worse problems with WP fastest cache (I opened a ticket there
   too):
   Since then, even though I am logged in as admin I am constantly logged 
   out from the website frontend, and instead I see the website as a guest… which
   is very inconvenient. Our users have the same problem. If I clear the cache manually
   or deactivate WP fastest cache things come back to normal. I just need to do 
   it every minute or so which is very aggravating.- On staging where I cannot have
   AI engine as I only bought the single site version, things work fine… thus I 
   assume there is a conflict between the two. I really need the cache too.
 * On discord, it seems another user also had to remove his cache plugin, as he 
   had similar problems.
 * Before the change of the plugin AI engine, everything was working really well,
   and the cookie problem was solved with the 10h reset 🙁
 * Could you help please?
 * Thank you in advance
 * Helene

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 *  Plugin Author [Jordy Meow](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tigroumeow/)
 * (@tigroumeow)
 * [3 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/cache-problems-11/#post-16767326)
 * Hi [@helenel](https://wordpress.org/support/users/helenel/),
 * > Since then, even though I am logged in as admin I am constantly logged out 
   > from the website frontend, and instead I see the website as a guest… which 
   > is very inconvenient.
 * I am sure the issue is not related to AI Engine, so don’t worry about that 🙂
   It’s definitely a coincidence for me. What changed in AI Engine in that regards
   can only affect AI Engine and really nothing else.
 * That said, caching on the client-side can definitely have weird effects with 
   the logged-in statuses of your users. Personally, I don’t recommend caching plugins
   at all (I never used any, and I don’t really understand why people use them);
   instead, use a good hosting service, they have caching on their side, and it 
   will not have any side-effects or weird impacts. It will be much faster and trouble-
   free. My two cents 🙂
 *  Thread Starter [HeleneL](https://wordpress.org/support/users/helenel/)
 * (@helenel)
 * [3 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/cache-problems-11/#post-16767476)
 * Hello Jordy, Thank you for your speedy answer as always. The problem must come
   from somewhere else, and as often it was just coincidental. (BTW, FYI I also 
   noticed before to deactivate WP fastest cache that the chatbot answer was impacted,
   and could not be displayed without re-loading the page). 
   In any case, I’ll try
   to follow your advice and do without a cache plugin (my situation now)My explanation
   for why we use it = when you have no real clue about webmastering, code etc, 
   and you have to develop a website (no choice or you disappear), and learn (a 
   bit) through trial and error and reading on the www, then you make plenty of 
   mistakes and compensate your ignorance and errors with a cache… ? 🙂
 *  Plugin Author [Jordy Meow](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tigroumeow/)
 * (@tigroumeow)
 * [3 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/cache-problems-11/#post-16767515)
 * Haha! I believe caching plugins are mostly used because most people start with
   cheap hosting services. With no plugins installed, and no data, WordPress is 
   actually fast, even on those cheap ones; however, as the complexity of the website
   grows, it will slow down, and indeed, at that time, a caching plugin will magically
   makes it faster.
 * _I don’t know who you are visitor, but you look like you want the same as the
   visitor before you, so here it is, no need to look in my DB or anything, here
   is what you want to see!_
 * You get a faster website, but it’s actually as if you display a photo of your
   website to your visitor rather than the real thing. As soon as the visitor wants
   to interact with the photo, it will be indeed become weird, and here you go dive
   into all the options of those plugins… 😉 I prefer to make it simpler, pay more
   and use a good hosting service, it worth the time.
 *  Thread Starter [HeleneL](https://wordpress.org/support/users/helenel/)
 * (@helenel)
 * [3 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/cache-problems-11/#post-16768211)
 * Follow up on cache problems… You were just so right (and the coincidence is quite
   amazing too). My host just changed the server-side caching (engintron proxying
   my apache server to Nginx… here I am way beyond my understanding, just parroting
   what they said), which created the pb with WP fastest cache and with AI engine
   when WP fastest cache is enabled… well, this is probably THE opportunity to test
   your advice to handle cache server-side…
   In any case thank you for your help,
   even though it had nothing to do with AI engine.And you are right again with 
   the initial bad (and not that cheap) US host, we have moved to VPS and not that
   cheap either host… 🙂
    -  This reply was modified 3 years ago by [HeleneL](https://wordpress.org/support/users/helenel/).

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