Title: clumsy interface + doesn’t store load order
Last modified: October 24, 2022

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# clumsy interface + doesn’t store load order

 *  [eLeXeM](https://wordpress.org/support/users/elexem/)
 * (@elexem)
 * [3 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/clumsy-interface-doesnt-store-load-order/)
 * bit of a mixed bag. :/
 * First of all, this is a **very complex** plugin, and the developer has obviously
   invested much effort to make it as configurable as possible. This laudable endeavour
   appears to have been stymied by his being much more of a coder than a UI/UX-designer,
   as it would seem.
    The **interface is daunting** to begin with and, by the time
   of this writing, simply not up to par with what can be done + expected in 2022;
   it looks and handles like something harking back to the (very) early days of 
   WordPress. Unexperienced users will hence be flat-out overwhelmed + are unlikely
   to achieve the/ir desired results. Enabling / disabling plugins by filter rules
   e.g. is **rather unintuitive** and takes a lot of trial & error to figure out
   properly (and the documentation does next to nothing to help with that). Once
   you tweaked your way thru the hassle, tho’, it _does_ do its job; so that’s that.
 * Where it doesn’t perform is the vital Load Order functionality. As of now, **
   storing changes to the sequence of loading does not seem to do anything**. We
   have employed the li’l sibling ‘Plugins Load Order’ (by Jose Antonio de la Barrera
   Mayoral) to counter-check and found that
    - changes made thru Plugin Organizer were found to _not_ stick per either Plugin
      Organizer or Plugin Load Order
    - changes made thru Plugin Load Order, however, were confirmed to prevail per
      both.
 * Seeing that Jeff seems to have been unresponsive here (for more than 2 months
   about now) has me wary to go with an extension as unwieldy and fraught as Plugin
   Organizer while, alas, there aren’t many alternatives around which offer grouping,
   ordering, filtering and selective dis-/enabling in one package. Hence, the 3 
   stars.
 * If it got a proper facelift and the apparent issues resolved, this package has
   the potential to truly shine. In an ideal world, [@foomagoo](https://wordpress.org/support/users/foomagoo/)(
   Jeff), [@chespir](https://wordpress.org/support/users/chespir/) (José) and perhaps
   [@enomoto-celtislab](https://wordpress.org/support/users/enomoto-celtislab/) (
   of ‘Plugin Load Filter’) might pool their experience, knowledge + resources to
   create a viable successor fit to surpass each of the/ir current approaches;
    
   but right here and now, such an uber-plugins-wrangler is yet a pipe-dream.
    -  This topic was modified 3 years, 7 months ago by [eLeXeM](https://wordpress.org/support/users/elexem/).
    -  This topic was modified 3 years, 7 months ago by [eLeXeM](https://wordpress.org/support/users/elexem/).
    -  This topic was modified 3 years, 7 months ago by [eLeXeM](https://wordpress.org/support/users/elexem/).
    -  This topic was modified 3 years, 7 months ago by [eLeXeM](https://wordpress.org/support/users/elexem/).
      Reason: ironed out a couple flaws

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