Title: Erratic behaviour receiving emails
Last modified: September 1, 2016

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# Erratic behaviour receiving emails

 *  [michaelmavromatis](https://wordpress.org/support/users/michaelmavromatis/)
 * (@michaelmavromatis)
 * [9 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/erratic-behaviour-receiving-emails/)
 * Email notifications sent from WooCommerce are most of the time not sent. As the
   admin/owner of site, I never receive a “New order” notification when I place 
   an order. Emails through “order actions” also are not received. As the “customer”
   I sometimes receive order confirmation / receipt, but again, not always.
 * Product page: [http://www.thegoalislife.com/product/made-for-more-event/](http://www.thegoalislife.com/product/made-for-more-event/)
 * I have read through the common issues there have been in the recent years, but
   nothing is helping. In short I have done the following:
    – activated standard
   WP-theme to determine if it is a theme issue. Sadly issue is not resolved – Tried
   using different addresses including [wordpress@hompage.com](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/erratic-behaviour-receiving-emails/wordpress@hompage.com?output_format=md)–
   Tested Gmail account (where all address are functioning accordingly) – Screened
   all possible “trash” or “spam” boxes” – Contacted host (Bluehost) and went though
   all possible solutions, including changing the routing.
 * Stange thing is, that all other contact availabilities work fine. Contact page
   and email subscription etc. Basically email address works fine. It is only the
   woo commerce notifications that are behaving strangely. Before 21st of July, 
   I was receiving the “new customer order” notifications.
 * Hope someone can help!
 * [https://wordpress.org/plugins/woocommerce/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/woocommerce/)

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 *  Plugin Contributor [Mike Jolley](https://wordpress.org/support/users/mikejolley/)
 * (@mikejolley)
 * [9 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/erratic-behaviour-receiving-emails/#post-7617264)
 * WC emails are HTML based so can be caught out by some servers.
 * Emails send when the order status is changed to ‘processing’, ‘on-hold’ or ‘completed’.
   Check your orders have this status.
 * You can see if emails are ‘sending’ but you’re just not receiving them with [https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-mail-logging/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-mail-logging/)
   Don’t forget to check your spam box.
 * If not spammed, but logged as sending, it may be a server issue. Try using a 
   different method of email sending with [https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-smtp/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-smtp/)
 * You can also combine [https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-smtp/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-smtp/)
   with [https://www.mandrill.com/](https://www.mandrill.com/) or [https://www.mailgun.com/](https://www.mailgun.com/)
   for improved deliverability and logging. I recommend this anyway.
 *  Thread Starter [michaelmavromatis](https://wordpress.org/support/users/michaelmavromatis/)
 * (@michaelmavromatis)
 * [9 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/erratic-behaviour-receiving-emails/#post-7617277)
 * Hi Mike,
 * Thank you for your advice. I am aware of the “order status” email-behaviour!
   
   I have installed wp-mail logging and also wp-smtp. I can now see the emails that
   have “supposedly” been generated though WP, however there is totally nothing 
   on my end. Not on the server, not in my in-box and not anywhere in spam, trash
   or archived.
 * It might not sound right (sure doesn’t to me) but it seems as if the mails through
   WC are somehow stuck somewhere!?
 * I am not sure how to explain how email traffic works but mine is set-up like 
   this: My general email account (info@thegoalislife.com) which I use for WC, has
   been setup with Gmail and works fine since 2012. At my host (Bluehost) i have
   two different email setups; “Roundcube and Horde” and when an email is generated
   in WC, it goes through both email accounts.
 * Basically I should therefore be able to see an email in three places: 2 at Bluehost
   and directly at Gmail. However, the emails are not visible anywhere!I hope this
   make some sense.
 *  [Caleb Burks](https://wordpress.org/support/users/icaleb/)
 * (@icaleb)
 * Automattic Happiness Engineer
 * [9 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/erratic-behaviour-receiving-emails/#post-7617280)
 * > I can now see the emails that have “supposedly” been generated though WP, however
   > there is totally nothing on my end.
 * Then WordPress/WooCommerce is queuing the emails, but your email set-up is causing
   problems it seems. Having emails go through two email SMTP accounts is a bit 
   strange.
 *  Thread Starter [michaelmavromatis](https://wordpress.org/support/users/michaelmavromatis/)
 * (@michaelmavromatis)
 * [9 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/erratic-behaviour-receiving-emails/#post-7617281)
 * Hi Caleb,
 * Thank’s for your response. Would you recommend removing the email client with
   my host or Gmail?
 *  [Caleb Burks](https://wordpress.org/support/users/icaleb/)
 * (@icaleb)
 * Automattic Happiness Engineer
 * [9 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/erratic-behaviour-receiving-emails/#post-7617282)
 * Try this extension to see if emails can get sent in default WordPress:
    [https://wordpress.org/plugins/check-email/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/check-email/)
 * If Check Email says your server is working fine, it’s probably an issue with 
   your email filtering out our emails. If the test emails don’t work, then your
   server set-up might be having an issue sending them out. I would suggest trying
   out one of these alternative email services to see if that can help you fix your
   issue. Also, try disabling everything else in your email set-up.
 * WP Mail SMTP: [http://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-mail-smtp/](http://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-mail-smtp/)
   
   SendGrid: [https://wordpress.org/plugins/sendgrid-email-delivery-simplified/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/sendgrid-email-delivery-simplified/)
   Maligun: [https://wordpress.org/plugins/mailgun/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/mailgun/)
 *  Thread Starter [michaelmavromatis](https://wordpress.org/support/users/michaelmavromatis/)
 * (@michaelmavromatis)
 * [9 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/erratic-behaviour-receiving-emails/#post-7617283)
 * Caleb,
 * I have removed the “double email clients” and everything is just going through
   gmail.
    I installed the “check-email” and that works fine. I tried 4 different
   addresses and they all were received within seconds. Then I went back to my WC
   and ordered a new product. According to the “mail-logging” a “new customer order”
   was sent and the “order-confirmation” but still nothing!
 * Hope this helps!
 *  Thread Starter [michaelmavromatis](https://wordpress.org/support/users/michaelmavromatis/)
 * (@michaelmavromatis)
 * [9 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/erratic-behaviour-receiving-emails/#post-7617284)
 * Is there somewhere you can see if my emails are not cueing at the WC-server?
 * This subject header: “New customer order (16493) – August 1, 2016” should be 
   traceable. It is nowhere to be found on my end!
 * Michael
 *  [jessepearson](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jessepearson/)
 * (@jessepearson)
 * Automattic Happiness Engineer
 * [9 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/erratic-behaviour-receiving-emails/#post-7617295)
 * The mail is going to be routed through your hosting server, there’s no way for
   anyone but you and/or your host to see if it was successfully sent.
 * I didn’t see this mentioned yet, have you verified your email settings under 
   WooCommerce > Settings > Emails? This is where these emails would be sent.
 * Also, you can test the sending of these emails on existing orders by going into
   the order, then selecting New Order from the drop down in the top right, then
   hitting the button:
    [http://cld.wthms.co/16THw/B1yefPVl](http://cld.wthms.co/16THw/B1yefPVl)
 *  Thread Starter [michaelmavromatis](https://wordpress.org/support/users/michaelmavromatis/)
 * (@michaelmavromatis)
 * [9 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/erratic-behaviour-receiving-emails/#post-7617323)
 * Hi Jesse and other involved,
 * I have solved the issue at hand. Basically it has been an issue all along having
   Gmail and not having my email set up with Bluehost, who are my host. After copying
   all email data, Bluehost redirected the MX server to theirs. I then activated
   the new accounts and after checking all data, I then removed /deleted my Gmail-
   accounts. Basically the “new order” email confirmation in Woocommerce is sent
   directly and I now receive that confirmation before check-out is completed:)
 * Totally awesome!
 * Thank you for your support- much appreciated,
 * Blessings,
    Michael
 *  Thread Starter [michaelmavromatis](https://wordpress.org/support/users/michaelmavromatis/)
 * (@michaelmavromatis)
 * [9 years, 9 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/erratic-behaviour-receiving-emails/#post-7617360)
 * Hi Guys,
 * I have the same issue back since two days. I had resolved the issue by switching
   email-provider, Gmail to my host: Bluehost. All was working well for the past
   two weeks but now the same issue is back.
 * I have gone through all of the above (email-log, changed back to WP-standard 
   theme and de-activcated all plug-ins) Nothing works.
 * Sending test emails through the “check-email” plugin works immediately, without
   any issues. The only thing I can find is that MYSQL is not up to date with 5.6
   version. Bluehost assured me that this is not causing the problems. Any ideas?
   
   Mike
 *  [Caleb Burks](https://wordpress.org/support/users/icaleb/)
 * (@icaleb)
 * Automattic Happiness Engineer
 * [9 years, 9 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/erratic-behaviour-receiving-emails/#post-7617361)
 * Using your host’s email servers is generally not a great idea, especially on 
   shared hosting. It may work sometimes – but won’t be steady especially when the
   server is under a heavy load.
 * Definitely suggest to switching to one of these:
 * WP Mail SMTP: [http://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-mail-smtp/](http://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-mail-smtp/)
   
   SendGrid: [https://wordpress.org/plugins/sendgrid-email-delivery-simplified/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/sendgrid-email-delivery-simplified/)
   Maligun: [https://wordpress.org/plugins/mailgun/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/mailgun/)
 *  [Luke Cavanagh](https://wordpress.org/support/users/lukecavanagh/)
 * (@lukecavanagh)
 * [9 years, 9 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/erratic-behaviour-receiving-emails/#post-7617362)
 * [@michaelmavromatis](https://wordpress.org/support/users/michaelmavromatis/)
 * A couple of other plugins to look at would be.
 * Postman SMTP: [https://wordpress.org/plugins/postman-smtp/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/postman-smtp/)
   
   SendinBlue: [https://wordpress.org/plugins/mailin/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/mailin/)
   SparkPost: [https://wordpress.org/plugins/sparkpost/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/sparkpost/)
 *  Thread Starter [michaelmavromatis](https://wordpress.org/support/users/michaelmavromatis/)
 * (@michaelmavromatis)
 * [9 years, 9 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/erratic-behaviour-receiving-emails/#post-7617365)
 * Hey guy’s,
 * Thanks for your support and advice. I have made sure I am doing everything possible
   to eliminate other causes and have come to the conclusion that it is none of 
   the above!
 * – I literally deactivated all plugins: no difference!
    – I replaced the email
   addresses which are used for the WC-notifications to other hosts (iCloud): no
   difference! – I deactivated my entire theme and activated the “Twenty Sixteen”:
   no difference! – “Check-email” sends emails instantaneously to any email address
   I feed it, wether it be on Bluehost, icloud or Gmail- there is absolutely no 
   delay in receiving the emails from WP. – “WP- Mail log” is showing that it is
   sending all but I receive nothing from WC anymore. – Also, even when manually
   changing an order status to lets say: “new order” or “Customer invoice” , again,
   I receive nothing!
 * I am more than happy to install other plugins, however it seems pretty straightforward
   that WC is not sending any emails anymore. Not to say that WC is the cause but
   clearly if WP is sending to any address and Bluehost, (who uses “roundcube” for
   email) have screened the server and found nothing, and I have checked all pathways,
   then I feel kinda stuck!
 * Just to recap what happend a month ago! I changed my existing “Gmail” accounts
   which I had for many years to “Roundcube” just to solve this issue- and it did
   as you can read on the post from two weeks ago! _To quote Claleb Burks three 
   weeks ago: “Then WordPress/WooCommerce is queuing the emails, but your email 
   set-up is causing problems it seems. Having emails go through two email SMTP 
   accounts is a bit strange.”_
    Hence the switch!
 * I hope you guys have some other ideas, or just a setup that will work as this
   is pretty annoying!
 * Thank’s for you patience guy’s I really appreciate it, and feel free to tell 
   me that I have no idea what I am talking about (that would not be overstating
   at all:)
 * Mike
 *  Thread Starter [michaelmavromatis](https://wordpress.org/support/users/michaelmavromatis/)
 * (@michaelmavromatis)
 * [9 years, 9 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/erratic-behaviour-receiving-emails/#post-7617366)
 * Sorry to mention, but I also installed “postman” and that works fine also through
   the Bluehost email!!!
 *  [Caleb Burks](https://wordpress.org/support/users/icaleb/)
 * (@icaleb)
 * Automattic Happiness Engineer
 * [9 years, 9 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/erratic-behaviour-receiving-emails/#post-7617367)
 * WooCommerce uses the built-in wp_mail function from WordPress to send out emails.
   So there should be no difference there.
 * You likely have settings misconfigured, or haven’t correctly set up an SMTP extension.
   Also – have you checked the spam folder?
 * Not much more I can do to help here from a general support standpoint. You may
   need to contract a web developer that can login to your site and help you get
   this sorted. [http://jobs.wordpress.net/](http://jobs.wordpress.net/) or [https://codeable.io/](https://codeable.io/)
   would be a good place to get some paid help.

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