Title: Experimental Theme &#8211; Grid
Last modified: August 18, 2016

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# Experimental Theme – Grid

 *  [concepthue](https://wordpress.org/support/users/concepthue/)
 * (@concepthue)
 * [20 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/experimental-theme-grid/)
 * [http://www.concepthue.com/blog](http://www.concepthue.com/blog)
 * I created and am currently using this theme I made. I’m still tweaking it and
   I need to get feedback on it before ever considering releasing it to the public
   to use.
 * I want to make sure it works. I know older browsers may have issues with it because
   of CSS2. However, fortunately it’s been some time since these new features were
   released so many browsers now are very much compatible. I don’t know about AOL,
   but that’s the first thing that jumps to my mind for potential issues.
 * I also added some nice java effects to it…for more interest, dynamic, and to 
   simply test out the javascript.
 * So, feel free to leave me some feedback for this theme.
    Thanks,
 * Tom

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 *  [moshu](https://wordpress.org/support/users/moshu/)
 * (@moshu)
 * [20 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/experimental-theme-grid/#post-338106)
 * To be honest I hate scrolbars. Scroll to see the post, scroll in the comment 
   box… I don’t think I like it.
 *  Thread Starter [concepthue](https://wordpress.org/support/users/concepthue/)
 * (@concepthue)
 * [20 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/experimental-theme-grid/#post-338108)
 * yup. me too, but sadly every web site has scroll bars. especially blogs. how 
   else are you gonna read the content??
 * at least this scroll bar doesn’t take you away from the navigation like the regular
   scroll bars everyone else uses.
 * how did it view anyway? any visual glitches?
 *  [moshu](https://wordpress.org/support/users/moshu/)
 * (@moshu)
 * [20 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/experimental-theme-grid/#post-338115)
 * Well, one scrollbar in the browser’s right side is more than enough. And regradless
   where the cursor is I can use the wheel on my mouse. Having two more scrollbars
   inside the site – that’s the thing that annoyes me…
 * It’s a bit “boxy” but that was the intent, I guess.
 *  Thread Starter [concepthue](https://wordpress.org/support/users/concepthue/)
 * (@concepthue)
 * [20 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/experimental-theme-grid/#post-338117)
 * yea. i know what you mean. i do believe the area is pretty well maximized though
   for the main reading area.
 * and this is part of something that i will change with the next design actually,
   though not because i dislike it, but because the javascript effect i want to 
   apply to it won’t allow for it to be scrolling.
 * you still can use your wheel on your mouse though…i do all the time. like you
   said just need to have it over the box.
 * what i really wanted to do was make the comment box able to be expanded upward
   to allow for more viewing area, BUT again, the script won’t allow that because
   it’s scrolling.
 * i am curious to know your resolution though. that may play a big factor. if it’s
   really high then yea, you’re working with a small window for content. if its 
   1280×1024 or less, you’re seeing more like what i am and i feel the room is ample
   enough.
 * thanks!
 *  [moshu](https://wordpress.org/support/users/moshu/)
 * (@moshu)
 * [20 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/experimental-theme-grid/#post-338119)
 * It doesn’t matter. Others might like it. I am not here to listen your arguments
   why do you have scrollbars.
    I don’t like them. Period. I’ll never use a theme
   that has them. But that’s just me.
 * You asked for opinions. I gave one. Don’t try to argue and to explain everything.
   I am not interested. (I guess others aren’t either.)
    Wait for more feedback…
   and apply them or not. It’s up to you. But arguing with every feedback doesn’t
   lead anywhere.
 *  [Mark (podz)](https://wordpress.org/support/users/podz/)
 * (@podz)
 * [20 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/experimental-theme-grid/#post-338122)
 * It resized my browser (FF 1.5 on PC)
    Very _very_ bad.
 * Sites like that I never go back to.
 *  [pcmt](https://wordpress.org/support/users/pcmt/)
 * (@pcmt)
 * [20 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/experimental-theme-grid/#post-338125)
 * I agree with moshu and podz, plus I’m not keen on a heavy reliance on JavaScript,
   especially for its own sake.
 *  [Kassad](https://wordpress.org/support/users/kassad/)
 * (@kassad)
 * [20 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/experimental-theme-grid/#post-338141)
 * Well, well ….
 * I must agree that browser resizing is not a good idea.
    It will not make people
   happy at all if you take control of their browser.
 * Though, I symphatize with your ideas I think, you took an early flight with your
   theme.
    It is obvious that you are enthusiastic but you had better stick with
   specific issues you are trying to solve.
 * A theme, intended for the public, should be consistent, yours, at the present
   more of a playground for your ideas. You need to make some more research into
   them.
 * So, do not take hard the critics, some are worth to consider, some are just the
   wheather …. 🙂
 *  [red-star](https://wordpress.org/support/users/red-star/)
 * (@red-star)
 * [20 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/experimental-theme-grid/#post-338149)
 * Ive been pretty upset when my browser jumpt to a verry narrow box. The comming
   thing was that when i was planning to go back to WP the browser got big again,
   but the site not. To manny fingermovements just to do a thing what normaly would
   be something to enjoy.
 *  [Nnyan](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nnyan/)
 * (@nnyan)
 * [20 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/experimental-theme-grid/#post-338174)
 * If you have to have a scrollbar thats fine but to add one in doesn’t make sense(
   design wise) to me but thats just my op.
    I see what you were going for (I think)
   but IMHO its too boxy. I think the black lines seperating the boxes are too big
   and defined at least to me it makes it even more “boxy”. I would take out some
   of the extraneous boxes and make your main scroll window bigger, less scrolling.
 * I also had my browser resize on load.
 *  [joelwalsh](https://wordpress.org/support/users/joelwalsh/)
 * (@joelwalsh)
 * [20 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/experimental-theme-grid/#post-338179)
 * 1. I really like the boxes, for one, because they are visually striking and make
   it easier to distinguish different sections of the navigation from each other.
   I also like the color scheme.
 * 2. OK, as for resizing the browser: yes, very very very bad. It’s bad because
   it gives you a little scare, like your computer is about to crash or it’s been
   infected with adware. People will close the window and hit the back button and
   never return. Of course your site doesn’t actually make the browser crash or 
   install spyware, but it will give people that feeling of concern that will make
   them just prefer to visit one of the other 6 billion web pages out there. Also
   I don’t appreciate it that when I leave your site I still don’t have my browser’s
   scroll bar–have you thought of that? Maybe maybe you can self-justify taking 
   away the user’s scrollbar when they’re on your site (maybe). But how can you 
   say it’s ok to take away apart of their browser when they’re not on your site?
 * 3. The scroll bar in the middle: that’s a frame. I know it’s not the old-fashioned
   html frame, but it’s functionally the exact same thing. Frames have gone out 
   of style for many reasons, all having to do with the fact that they make the 
   site less usable. Just read Jakob Nielsen’s writings on the subject. Yes, the
   current default browser setup of scrollbar on the right side of the page in the
   web browser is vastly preferable to users as demonstrated in numerous usability
   studies (again, Google Jakob Nielsen and frames). Also, the frame prevents you
   from making the most out of your screen real estate by forcing the little bottom
   navbar into view when you would rather use that screen space for reading content.
   In short, it’s an imposition on visitors, even if it was intended as precisely
   the opposite.
 *  [Trigger](https://wordpress.org/support/users/trigger/)
 * (@trigger)
 * [20 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/experimental-theme-grid/#post-338181)
 * Another vote against resizing a person’s browser. It really hosed my Firefox 
   in Linux. I had to restart the browser. Yeah, it makes life easy for you knowing
   exactly how big the window is but people **really really** hate it.
 *  Thread Starter [concepthue](https://wordpress.org/support/users/concepthue/)
 * (@concepthue)
 * [20 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/experimental-theme-grid/#post-338187)
 * yea, I may take off the browser resize. It was just experimenting. Though it’s
   also control. Something the web is lacking. Something I can’t stand.
 * I’m a designer and I create. I create something I have an intended way for you
   to view it.
 * I know not everyone is going to like or view my design. However you WILL see 
   it how I intended.
 * To a more concrete and logical argument and reason for not using it. Thanks to
   Trigger. Now that I understand there is a problem with it, I’m more inclined 
   not to use it. It’s not just because someone doesn’t like it. Not your design
   buddy. Sorry.
 *  [moshu](https://wordpress.org/support/users/moshu/)
 * (@moshu)
 * [20 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/experimental-theme-grid/#post-338197)
 * _I create something I have an intended way for you to view it._
    and _you WILL
   see it how I intended._
 * Unfortunately on the web that’s just a nice dream. You cannot be prepared for
   all the possible browsers (think of text-only!) and/or resolutions, OS etc.
    
   We all would like to present our work as **we see** it but nobody can controll
   everybody’s browser and/or computer. We all have to compromise: while doing our
   best to look good in as many browsers as possible, it will never be perfect in
   every instance.
 * That’s the nature of this medium.
 *  [joelwalsh](https://wordpress.org/support/users/joelwalsh/)
 * (@joelwalsh)
 * [20 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/experimental-theme-grid/#post-338201)
 * concepthue, you already have the ability to pretty much control what the user
   sees by making it fixed-width, as you have done; that means that a bigger window
   will only produce a large blank space to the right of the main page, which no
   one will notice. The only thing you can’t control is whether or not they’ll also
   see the footer, but there’s so little of interest there anyway, what’s the point
   of making them see it?

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