Title: false idea
Last modified: August 14, 2018

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# false idea

 *  [Mark-k](https://wordpress.org/support/users/mark-k/)
 * (@mark-k)
 * [8 years, 5 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/false-idea/)
 * The quality of the code of the plugin is actually irrelevant as the idea behind
   it is totally false. Looking at the code it is obvious that disabling gutenberg
   is a relatively complex task which will probably require continuous updates for
   every new release of gutenberg, something that even if will happen in the code
   of this plugin will not be obvious for site owners.
 * The option to disable gutenberg should be part of gutenberg/core to make sure
   it is synchronized with whatever changes are made in the gutenberg code.
 * As an aside for the plugin to be useful it also needs to convert gutenberg posts
   to none gutenberg when such posts exists. Not having such an option means that
   this plugin can be deployed only when setting a new site.

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 *  [barnez](https://wordpress.org/support/users/pidengmor/)
 * (@pidengmor)
 * [8 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/false-idea/#post-10204324)
 * > As an aside for the plugin to be useful it also needs to convert gutenberg 
   > posts to none gutenberg when such posts exists. Not having such an option means
   > that this plugin can be deployed only when setting a new site.
 * I think the idea is that when Gutenberg rolls out in 5.0, existing sites can 
   install and activate this plugin to prevent all their existing content from being
   converted into blocks.
 *  Thread Starter [Mark-k](https://wordpress.org/support/users/mark-k/)
 * (@mark-k)
 * [8 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/false-idea/#post-10204388)
 * [@pidengmor](https://wordpress.org/support/users/pidengmor/), and how will they
   know about this plugin? The realistic scenario of 5.0 is that people upgrade,
   go to edit some post which prompts them to convert to blocks (or they create 
   some new content) and after a week they decide that they do not like the experience(
   for whatever reason, plugin incompatibility, inability to properly edit via xml-
   rpc, wordpress search is 100% useless instead of only 80%, or just a general 
   dislike) at that point they search the interwebs find this plugin and install
   it.
 * And at this point, what exactly gona happen to all that content which was authored
   and changed with gutenberg? gutenberg is disabled, so the inline styling will
   not be applied any more, and on the editor side you will see only the text, but
   to see whatever additional data used with it you will need to go to the text 
   tab and guess how to apply all the json data in the comments, something that 
   will be hard even for technical people.
 *  [barnez](https://wordpress.org/support/users/pidengmor/)
 * (@pidengmor)
 * [8 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/false-idea/#post-10206286)
 * I 100% agree with the problems that are going to erupt, particularly as most 
   users will be unaware of the implications of converting all their content to 
   Gutenberg blocks. But as the development team are determined to add this to 5.0,
   it seems that having this plugin installed and activated is the best option at
   present, along with this [function](https://gist.github.com/senlin/691c5f06459857f57247dc92f7ec1406)
   to force the replacement of Gutenberg with the Classic Editor.
    -  This reply was modified 8 years, 1 month ago by [barnez](https://wordpress.org/support/users/pidengmor/).
 *  Thread Starter [Mark-k](https://wordpress.org/support/users/mark-k/)
 * (@mark-k)
 * [8 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/false-idea/#post-10206348)
 * [@pidengmor](https://wordpress.org/support/users/pidengmor/), yes which brings
   the second part of my review. History shows that the wordpress core plugins fall
   into disrepair and no one feels like he should “own” them. We seee it with the
   importer breaking on php 7.2.
 * So what is going to happen is that in the long run there will be changes to “
   gutenberg editor”, but there might be no one that will be interested in maintaining
   the “classic editor” plugin. In addition [@pento](https://wordpress.org/support/users/pento/)
   said in a very clear language that moving forward the gutenberg team do not plan
   to maintain the possibility to run the classic editor at all, which means that
   more and more hacks will be needed, and maybe at some point it will not be possible
   at all.
 * The only true option that can be actually maintained is an official way to turn
   gutenberg off and use the classic editor. Any thing else is a hack with an unpredictable
   life time
 * in [https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/4409#issuecomment-357118208](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/4409#issuecomment-357118208)
   [@pento](https://wordpress.org/support/users/pento/) said
 * “So, to get back to the original question, a single code-based option to disable
   the block editor isn’t a viable long term solution, it can’t expand to give appropriate
   options for future WordPress Core development, it really does a disservice to
   everyone here if we were to create this option.”
 * Therefor the notion that the maintaining the classic editor plugin is going to
   be harder and harder.
 *  [barnez](https://wordpress.org/support/users/pidengmor/)
 * (@pidengmor)
 * [8 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/false-idea/#post-10206503)
 * I think there will be tens to hundreds of 1,000s of users and developers keen
   to keep this plugin alive (possibly even millions?). If the current authors (
   WordPress Contributors) stop maintaining the plugin then I imagine (*hope*) it
   will be forked. Their strategy for Gutenberg isn’t going to change (introduced
   into core with no filter or toggle to activate or disable), so it seems that 
   our choice as users is to either find a solution (currently the Classic Editor),
   or look for a new CMS.
 *  [Pieter Bos](https://wordpress.org/support/users/senlin/)
 * (@senlin)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/false-idea/#post-10500127)
 * [@pidengmor](https://wordpress.org/support/users/pidengmor/), thank you for mentioning
   my additional function in your comment earlier.
 * In the meantime we (@gschoppe and myself) have rolled that function in a plugin
   and released it as [**Classic Editor Addon**](https://wordpress.org/plugins/classic-editor-addon/).
 * Please have a look and if you have any suggestions to improve it, we would love
   to hear!
 *  [jason1308](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jason1308/)
 * (@jason1308)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/false-idea/#post-10555177)
 * I just hope that if they continue down this road with the new editor, then someone
   will fork wordpress with the classic editor, before this plugin stops being updated.
 *  [netix1](https://wordpress.org/support/users/netix1/)
 * (@netix1)
 * [7 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/false-idea/#post-10562277)
 * What you guys are mentioning makes complete sense. #wpfork, let’s start the movement
   now!

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