Title: Forcing text editor
Last modified: July 21, 2021

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# Forcing text editor

 *  Resolved [Ate Up With Motor](https://wordpress.org/support/users/ate-up-with-motor/)
 * (@ate-up-with-motor)
 * [4 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/forcing-text-editor/)
 * I have a weird question: Since updating to WordPress 5.8 yesterday, when I edit
   posts or pages, the editor keeps trying to default to the Visual Editor — opening
   a post or page for editing now opens in Visual, and even if I switch to Text,
   it switches back by itself as soon as I save, which is frustrating. It didn’t
   do this prior to the 5.8 update, so I’m fearing this behavior is the result of
   some asinine block editor change spilling over onto the Classic Editor.
 * Is there a way to control the Classic Editor default view so that it will default
   to text? (I prefer to mostly edit in text mode so that I can manage HTML markup,
   since I don’t really trust the WYSIWYG editor to do that properly, especially
   with regard to CSS.)
 * Thanks! (And, as an unrelated tangent, thanks for updating the plugin to allow
   classic Widgets — you saved me so many headaches tonight.)

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 *  Plugin Author [Jeff Starr](https://wordpress.org/support/users/specialk/)
 * (@specialk)
 * [4 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/forcing-text-editor/#post-14685679)
 * The only thing I can think of is the WP setting under Users > Profile > “Visual
   Editor”. If that is enabled, the Visual Editor always will be displayed when 
   you visit the edit screen. It’s not something that DG has any control over.
    -  This reply was modified 4 years, 10 months ago by [Jeff Starr](https://wordpress.org/support/users/specialk/).
 *  Thread Starter [Ate Up With Motor](https://wordpress.org/support/users/ate-up-with-motor/)
 * (@ate-up-with-motor)
 * [4 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/forcing-text-editor/#post-14685756)
 * Hmm — looking at that option, it appears it works the other way around: The checkbox
   on the Profile page says “Disable the visual editor when writing.” With that 
   checked, the visual editor tab is completely removed from the editor screen. 
   I guess that is a possibility, although it doesn’t seem to be responsible for
   the odd behavior I’m experiencing. (I can switch to the text editor if it’s not
   displayed, but the edit interface keeps switching back on opening or saving a
   post, whether I tell it to or not.) Very odd.
 *  Plugin Author [Jeff Starr](https://wordpress.org/support/users/specialk/)
 * (@specialk)
 * [4 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/forcing-text-editor/#post-14685830)
 * It may be that something (like a plugin or theme) is interfering with normal 
   WP functionality. Best advice would be to do some basic troubleshooting of your
   site. I would be glad to provide a guide if it will be useful for you.
 *  Thread Starter [Ate Up With Motor](https://wordpress.org/support/users/ate-up-with-motor/)
 * (@ate-up-with-motor)
 * [4 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/forcing-text-editor/#post-14686169)
 * Hmm — it was not doing this on Monday, and the only thing that’s changed since
   then is the WordPress 5.8 update (and this is happening across sites with different
   themes), so I’m guessing it’s some kind of quirk in the latest update, like the
   disappearing editor issue. Thanks for your input!
 *  Plugin Author [Jeff Starr](https://wordpress.org/support/users/specialk/)
 * (@specialk)
 * [4 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/forcing-text-editor/#post-14686430)
 * Yeah that could be it, will keep an eye on it. Let me know if any further clues,
   and/or if I can provide any further infos about the plugin. Thank you, [@ate-up-with-motor](https://wordpress.org/support/users/ate-up-with-motor/).
 *  Thread Starter [Ate Up With Motor](https://wordpress.org/support/users/ate-up-with-motor/)
 * (@ate-up-with-motor)
 * [4 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/forcing-text-editor/#post-14686438)
 * Will do. Thanks again — everything about the latest update has been a “Oh, no,
   what is it doing NOW affair?”

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