Title: header.php as an include within header.php ??
Last modified: August 19, 2016

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# header.php as an include within header.php ??

 *  [ravenwilde](https://wordpress.org/support/users/ravenwilde/)
 * (@ravenwilde)
 * [16 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/headerphp-as-an-include-within-headerphp/)
 * Howdy,
 * I’ve been asked to redesign a wordpress powered site loosely based on the default
   theme- the owner had had some previous help modifying some of the templates and
   css. I’m trying to go in now and futz with the header (mostly I would like to
   just move the menu list around) but I’ve found that I cannot get to it via the
   header.php file. In fact, when I go through it, I find within it header.php has
   been called up as an include… how does this even work? Moreover, where can I 
   get at the include so I can edit it?
 * The code of my header.php template looks like this:
 *     ```
       <?php
       /**
        * @package WordPress
        * @subpackage Default_Theme
        */
       ?>
       <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
       <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" <?php language_attributes(); ?>>
   
       <head profile="http://gmpg.org/xfn/11">
       <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="<?php bloginfo('html_type'); ?>; charset=<?php bloginfo('charset'); ?>" />
   
       <title><?php wp_title('&laquo;', true, 'right'); ?> <?php bloginfo('name'); ?></title>
   
       <link rel="stylesheet" href="<?php bloginfo('stylesheet_url'); ?>" type="text/css" media="screen" />
       <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="screen" href="/assets/style/shared.css" />
       <link rel="alternate" type="application/rss+xml" title="<?php bloginfo('name'); ?> RSS Feed" href="<?php bloginfo('rss2_url'); ?>" />
       <link rel="alternate" type="application/atom+xml" title="<?php bloginfo('name'); ?> Atom Feed" href="<?php bloginfo('atom_url'); ?>" />
       <link rel="pingback" href="<?php bloginfo('pingback_url'); ?>" />
   
       <?php if ( is_singular() ) wp_enqueue_script( 'comment-reply' ); ?>
   
       <?php wp_head(); ?>
       </head>
       <body  id="page<?php echo rand(0,2); ?>" class="sidebar">
       <div id="container">
       	<?php
       	include('templates/header.php'); ?>
       ```
   
 * If this is a really dumb question I’m sorry, I’m still new to php!
 * Thx

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 *  [esmi](https://wordpress.org/support/users/esmi/)
 * (@esmi)
 * [16 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/headerphp-as-an-include-within-headerphp/#post-1361140)
 * Try looking in the templates sub-folder via FTP.
 *  Thread Starter [ravenwilde](https://wordpress.org/support/users/ravenwilde/)
 * (@ravenwilde)
 * [16 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/headerphp-as-an-include-within-headerphp/#post-1361264)
 * bummer… I was hoping it wouldn’t come down to that. The site owner is completely
   tech illiterate and explaining this is going to be difficult 😛
 * Thanks for the quick response though! 🙂

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