Title: need better developers Last modified: September 25, 2019 --- # need better developers * [oakhillman](https://wordpress.org/support/users/oakhillman/) * (@oakhillman) * [6 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-better-developers/) * Not sure why this project was delegated to developers that clearly are not up to the task. Please rescue it with some developers that know how to create a UI. * Just so you know, I’ve been using the block editor since day one and before, so I’m speaking from experience. I wanted this to work so bad, but now it’s sort of become an embarrassment. Nevertheless, I continue to use it as much as I can despite it being so clunky. I still have hope. * Here’s a thought, get the folks from Beaver Builder involved. They know what they’re doing. Whatever they want, just pay them before WordPress is permanently damaged. Viewing 11 replies - 1 through 11 (of 11 total) * [Bianca](https://wordpress.org/support/users/bianca205/) * (@bianca205) * [6 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-better-developers/#post-11971536) * Hi, Sorry to see that the Gutenberg editor does not meet your expectations. * > Not sure why this project was delegated to developers that clearly are not > up to the task. Please rescue it with some developers that know how to create > a UI. * As you may or may not know, WordPress is open source software with contributions from the entire community. In that spirit I think it’s better to actually contribute( even by reporting bugs, telling what you are missing etc), rather than belittling the ones that do. * Thread Starter [oakhillman](https://wordpress.org/support/users/oakhillman/) * (@oakhillman) * [6 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-better-developers/#post-11971821) * I’m sorry, you’re right. I was the guy telling everyone one about how a new and wonderful editor is on the horizon back when Gutenberg was in development. I still have hope that it will improve. If you have access to the developers, maybe tell them that most users do not understand the difference between when a block has focus and when it doesn’t. Again, I’m sorry for my unkind words, I’m just frustrated and of course not alone in my frustration. But also worried for WordPress in general. * [Mark](https://wordpress.org/support/users/olcoil/) * (@olcoil) * [6 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-better-developers/#post-12007242) * there are 1801 issues on Git. - This reply was modified 6 years, 8 months ago by [Mark](https://wordpress.org/support/users/olcoil/). * Thread Starter [oakhillman](https://wordpress.org/support/users/oakhillman/) * (@oakhillman) * [6 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-better-developers/#post-12009821) * [@olcoil](https://wordpress.org/support/users/olcoil/), is 1801 issues a lot? * [sitemapxml](https://wordpress.org/support/users/sitemapxml/) * (@sitemapxml) * [6 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-better-developers/#post-12129779) * [@oakhillman](https://wordpress.org/support/users/oakhillman/) It is an hystoric number. * [sitemapxml](https://wordpress.org/support/users/sitemapxml/) * (@sitemapxml) * [6 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-better-developers/#post-12129784) * [@oakhillman](https://wordpress.org/support/users/oakhillman/) It’s almost 2000 now! * Plugin Author [Jorge Costa](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jorgefilipecosta/) * (@jorgefilipecosta) * [6 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-better-developers/#post-12154699) * Hi [@oakhillman](https://wordpress.org/support/users/oakhillman/), * The block editor is a complex project still in very early stages. Thank you for using the editor and having hope it will improve. WordPress 5.3 brings many block editor improvements and features. I hope your experience improves with the new version. * > Please rescue it with some developers that know how to create a UI. * Could you elaborate on why you think the current UI is bad? What challenges are you facing? * Thank you in advance for the insights you may provide! * Thread Starter [oakhillman](https://wordpress.org/support/users/oakhillman/) * (@oakhillman) * [6 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-better-developers/#post-12155041) * Jorge, * Thanks for taking the time to reach out. I think one of the biggest issues I see that impacts a lot of how the block editor works is that users don’t understand the concept of a block having focus or not having focus. And it has always bothered me that when a block does have focus and the block editing buttons appear, that they overlap the bottom of the block above. That causes confusion because it’s just not clean. And I suggest that the little plus icon at the top of each block that only appears when you hover over that little area where it resides, be always visible. * I know that one of the goals is probably to keep the interface as minimalistic as possible, and I get that, but I suspect that there are a ton of users, maybe even most users, that would rather have all the buttons and controls and everything right out there to be seen so we don’t have to search around for everything. Maybe there needs to be two modes of editing, one for minimalist and one for folks like me and my many customers using WordPress. * Hope that helps. * Plugin Author [Jorge Costa](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jorgefilipecosta/) * (@jorgefilipecosta) * [6 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-better-developers/#post-12163366) * Hi [@oakhillman](https://wordpress.org/support/users/oakhillman/), * Thank you for detailing the issue you see with the editor. I will pass this feedback to the design team. * Some improvements were made in this area, and others are in progress. If you could, please test the editor from time to time, and you may find this problem has been reduced. * Thank you for your tests! * Plugin Author [Jorge Costa](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jorgefilipecosta/) * (@jorgefilipecosta) * [6 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-better-developers/#post-12163545) * I passed on this feedback. As an additional suggestion, I think the “Top Toolbar mode” that can be enabled in “Options” Inside the ellipsis (three points) menu at the top right of the screen, may be a partial solution to the issue described. * Thread Starter [oakhillman](https://wordpress.org/support/users/oakhillman/) * (@oakhillman) * [6 years, 7 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-better-developers/#post-12163618) * Just looked at the “Top Toolbar” option and I think that could be helpful. I’ll definitely give it a try as I’m editing. Thanks! 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