Title: Need help – Gutenberg theme development Last modified: September 17, 2021 --- # Need help – Gutenberg theme development * Resolved [tatof](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tatof/) * (@tatof) * [4 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-help-gutenberg-theme-development/) * Hello, * I am a developer that developed 100+ WordPress websites with my own custom theme. I really would like to go to gutenberg but I just dont understand how you can develope a full website with this editor. * Like normaly I just use ACF and make custom fields for the client too fill in. Like how can I make this design usable in gutenberg for my client? * [https://entered.devtof2.nl/gut1.png](https://entered.devtof2.nl/gut1.png) [https://entered.devtof2.nl/gut2.png](https://entered.devtof2.nl/gut2.png) * I get the whole gutenberg freedom editor thing but it is really pointed to “blogging”. Are there other professionals here who can give me tips on how to make this doable and actualy good for the client? * Don’t get met wrong I can fix this in gutenberg, I know how to work with custom blocks etc.. but it just becomes a messy {expletive deleted} of a page for the client to fillout. Really {bad} for usability. * Searching for tips/brainstorm on how to use gutenberg propper. Or is it normal that it becomes a UX/UI _[ expletive deleted ]_? * Thanks 🙂 - This topic was modified 4 years, 8 months ago by [Jan Dembowski](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jdembowski/). Reason: Keep the forums PG13 - This topic was modified 4 years, 8 months ago by [Yui](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fierevere/). Viewing 7 replies - 1 through 7 (of 7 total) * Plugin Support [David Smith](https://wordpress.org/support/users/get_dave/) * (@get_dave) * [4 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-help-gutenberg-theme-development/#post-14882776) * Hi [@tatof](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tatof/) * > I am a developer that developed 100+ WordPress websites with my own custom > theme. I really would like to go to gutenberg but I just dont understand how > you can develope a full website with this editor. * It sounds like you are experienced. Great work! * > I get the whole gutenberg freedom editor thing but it is really pointed to “ > blogging”. Are there other professionals here who can give me tips on how to > make this doable and actualy good for the client? * I believe that it’s far more than blogging. I agree that attempting to build a complex page from low level blocks can be challenging for a client. * I would recommend you look into [Block Patterns](https://developer.wordpress.org/block-editor/reference-guides/block-api/block-patterns/). These allow you to predefine groups of preconfigured blocks which your client can pick from to construct a page. * In general, I’d advise giving yourself time to learn about the new capabilities of the editor in depth. I’ll ask around to see if we can get some good learning resources posted for you here. * [annezazu](https://wordpress.org/support/users/annezazu/) * (@annezazu) * [4 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-help-gutenberg-theme-development/#post-14882876) * Howdy, [@tatof](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tatof/). For starters, love your designs. Very cool work. I wanted to add a few more resources for you to explore in case it’s helpful as you dig in. * For starters, if you’re keen to dig into block themes, here’s an overview of resources that should help you get started: [https://themeshaper.com/2021/07/13/resources-for-block-theme-development](https://themeshaper.com/2021/07/13/resources-for-block-theme-development) * If you’re looking for a framework of sorts for how you can begin to expand customization of the block editor for your client, I’d recommend checking out this great article from the Gutenberg Times: * [https://gutenbergtimes.com/customizing-wordpress-block-editor-for-client-projects/](https://gutenbergtimes.com/customizing-wordpress-block-editor-for-client-projects/) * Finally big +1 on looking into block patterns. You might find this workshop helpful: * [https://learn.wordpress.org/workshop/registering-block-patterns/](https://learn.wordpress.org/workshop/registering-block-patterns/) * Hope this helps you get you started! If not, I’d love to know what might help. * Thread Starter [tatof](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tatof/) * (@tatof) * [4 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-help-gutenberg-theme-development/#post-14901089) * [@get_dave](https://wordpress.org/support/users/get_dave/) & [@annezazu](https://wordpress.org/support/users/annezazu/) thanks for the great replies! This is some info I can work with. * > I’ll ask around to see if we can get some good learning resources posted for > you here. * Dave I think this would be great! I searched online for some good developers info on how to build an complex design with gutenberg but there issnt any good info. I could only find the basic stuff like how you should develop an custom block. (great but not needed) * Really want to work with gutenberg but it still doesn’t work great (for me) with complex designed websites/shops. * But block patterns sounds awesome 🙂 and the gutenbergtimes blog post is also awesome. thanks guys! * Plugin Support [David Smith](https://wordpress.org/support/users/get_dave/) * (@get_dave) * [4 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-help-gutenberg-theme-development/#post-14928629) * [@tatof](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tatof/) glad you found it useful. * There’s also [the Full Site Editing course](https://fullsiteediting.com/) which you might find useful. * This is not an official recommendation but rather something I’m aware of that might help you. * Best of luck! * Thread Starter [tatof](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tatof/) * (@tatof) * [4 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-help-gutenberg-theme-development/#post-14928667) * Thanks man! nice website indeed * I hope that gutenberg grows to this: [https://github.com/WordPress/theme-experiments/tree/master/armando](https://github.com/WordPress/theme-experiments/tree/master/armando) * Right now when I want a website with a required page banner on top of every page I can’t make that with gutenberg. Can’t lock patterns or blocks. Can lock complete templates but that doesn’t work for the rest of the page. * So I have to use ACF or custom meta fields to make the banner and that is displayed below the gutenberg content. Without a nice “preview” mode like you have in gutenberg editor. * My conclusion: Gutenberg still issnt there yet * When there is a function for developers that lock an specific block on a specific position on a specific post type. That would be the moment gutenberg makes sense to use for the more extensive websites. - This reply was modified 4 years, 8 months ago by [tatof](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tatof/). - This reply was modified 4 years, 8 months ago by [tatof](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tatof/). * Plugin Support [David Smith](https://wordpress.org/support/users/get_dave/) * (@get_dave) * [4 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-help-gutenberg-theme-development/#post-14929070) * > When there is a function for developers that lock an specific block on a specific > position on a specific post type. That would be the moment gutenberg makes > sense to use for the more extensive websites. * I am aware [there is effort underway to achieve locking at a block level](https://github.com/WordPress/gutenberg/issues/29864). * Thread Starter [tatof](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tatof/) * (@tatof) * [4 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-help-gutenberg-theme-development/#post-14929137) * Great! 🙂 Viewing 7 replies - 1 through 7 (of 7 total) The topic ‘Need help – Gutenberg theme development’ is closed to new replies. * ![](https://ps.w.org/gutenberg/assets/icon-256x256.jpg?rev=1776042) * [Gutenberg](https://wordpress.org/plugins/gutenberg/) * [Frequently Asked Questions](https://wordpress.org/plugins/gutenberg/#faq) * [Support Threads](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/gutenberg/) * [Active Topics](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/gutenberg/active/) * [Unresolved Topics](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/gutenberg/unresolved/) * [Reviews](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/gutenberg/reviews/) ## Tags * [Howto](https://wordpress.org/support/topic-tag/howto/) * [theme development](https://wordpress.org/support/topic-tag/theme-development/) * 7 replies * 3 participants * Last reply from: [tatof](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tatof/) * Last activity: [4 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/need-help-gutenberg-theme-development/#post-14929137) * Status: resolved