Password activation after first usage

  • TJ96

    (@alexhofmann)


    1 year, 10 months ago

    Hey @ all,

    Since our first attempts overcomplicated things and ended up in sheer chaos, I decided to change our approach.

    We are a very small, unfortunately due the age of the manager still very oldschool working, five person company. We got hit by Corona and now lost many parts of our supply chain due to the war.

    For our business partners we already offered excel sheets in the past which contain functions and supplier, distributor data etc. (to make the accounting, reordering and so on) easier.

    Because of the problematic situation I thought it would be nice to sell these sheets w/o data, but with functions also to non-business partners. I’ve never worked that intense with WordPress before, so I’m starting from scratch here.

    My first approach via user roles failed. There were no plugins with the needed functions and I’m still lacking skills to write any of this myself (even with the code one of the great users in this forum kindly provided).

    After weeks of failed attempts and no solution in sight, my boss now decided to relinquish this product. It was my idea, I convinced him to go new ways.. I now feel bad and do this in my free time.

    What I need is:

    Random Visitor sees our site, but no content and decides to register ->

    Random Visitor becomes Registered Blog Reader ->

    Registered Blog Reader visits our site -> 

    Registered Blog Reader sees only post titles and “Password protected” form saying “Please enter PW or go to https:.. Ebay.de and buy a code” – > 

    Registered Blog Reader buys one of 10,000 Passwords which are deposited on Ebay AND as well in WordPress (deposited are 1000 30 day PWs, 1000 60 day PWs, etc. etc. etc.) ->

    Registered Blog Reader enters PW and from then on can read all posts ->

    Meanwhile the countdown starts ->

    After (for example) 30 days the cycle starts again. 

    An alternative would be to protect the entire site with a few hundred or thousand different passwords. So there’s only one form in the beggining.

    After all the reasearch done, my last hope was the PPWP plugin with extensions.. So I bought it.. 🙁

    Unfortunately nowhere was mentioned that the “activation after first usage” only works for specific pages. So there’s no way to use these passwords to get access to all our sheet categories with only one password.

    Does anyone of you know of a plugin, or a workaround that can realize this, so we don’t have to switch from WP to a Forum? There already has been so much designing etc. and it would be sad to waste all of this..

    Kind regards
    Alexander

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  • Thread Starter TJ96

    (@alexhofmann)

    1 year, 10 months ago

    Hey @iconithemes,

    Happy to see you here. 🙂

    I was already in touch with them a few times (actually about 2 hrs ago the last time). For now it seems, like this method is depending on a payment gateway, which (sorry for not mentioning) is not possible for us. We can only sell the codes via E-Mail (directly), via our business site or via Ebay (with Plentymarkets). Otherwise we would had to change our complete infrastructure as it would interfere with our daily routines and we have to prioritize our business partners we are working for, who get the sheets for free when they buy materials and our service from us or our affiliates. Furthermore our tax system is already automatized for sellings via E-Mail, Site and Ebay.

    So all this payment methods, WooCommerce, recurring payments via WordPress etc. would cause more work without the benefits and we had to declare taxes, which would come with variations of our terms etc. and some other bureaucratic stuff (Germany.. -.- ).

    I also was hoping for a way to disable the payment gateway function and / or just giving the passwords out as 100% discount codes, but it seems like no one thought of a “basic version”.

    Ironic.. We need LESS features and can’t get it.

    The best outcome in regards to the deposit of PWs I had with “Registration Forms”. But it lacks the ability of renewal etc..

    ABSOLUTELY WEIRD that there’s not alreay a plugin for a quite simple access restriction + expiring passwords. It sounds so easy and I saw a lot of other people looking for that, but nope. \°/

    TLDR: I need something without payment gateway.

    Kind regards
    Alex

    Moderator bcworkz

    (@bcworkz)

    1 year, 10 months ago

    I’m sorry to hear about your troubles. Just some passing observations:

    I don’t think selling “passwords” is the right paradigm. Maybe it’s just semantics, but maybe these are better thought of as “access codes” or something. Passwords are for users to secure their site access with, they should not be tied to getting certain benefits or products. Users should be able to manage their own passwords.

    You can use an access code or link or or similar token to authorize initial registration if you want, or let people freely register to gain minimal access. To gain more privileged access, they would need to purchase certain rights. You were on the right track with user roles, but it’s more nuanced than that. Which users have access to what and for how long should all be managed through user meta data. User passwords let them log into your site, but it’s their meta data that dictates what they’ll be able to see and do.

    This is basically what membership plugins do, but it’s variable how much fine grained control you’d have over each user. If you cannot find a plugin that does exactly what you need, it might be possible to use the closest best fit and modify it further to achieve your goals.

    Thread Starter TJ96

    (@alexhofmann)

    1 year, 10 months ago

    @bcworkz You are right. In retrospect, using a different terminology would’ve made my request way more comprehensive. My first thought probably was “password” because you “pass” the blockage..
    Now I see why some people had to check back with my initial inquiry..

    Oh no.. Back to user roles? … And then I have to get code etc.

    Well.. I’m still within the trial period for some things. It took weeks to get here and nothing has been accomplished.

    I’ll just vBulletin or something similar.

    Nonetheless, thanks for your help @iconithemes & @bcworkz

    Kind regards
    Alex

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