Title: Plugin rearranges posts (v3.0.7)
Last modified: February 6, 2026

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# Plugin rearranges posts (v3.0.7)

 *  Resolved [Nick Sinclair](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nicksinclair/)
 * (@nicksinclair)
 * [4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-rearranges-posts/)
 * I use a plugin to help rearrange posts and custom post types on the Edit Posts/
   Pages screen (/edit.php?post_type=page). These usually just adjust the menu_order
   property.
 * By default, in the latest version of this plugin, it seems to drastically rearrange
   any previously arranged items as soon as you “Duplicate” an object (post, page,
   cpt) from this screen.
 * Edit: I’m using the “Basic” plugin settings.
    -  This topic was modified 4 months ago by [Nick Sinclair](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nicksinclair/).

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 *  Plugin Support [Joe](https://wordpress.org/support/users/joemc/)
 * (@joemc)
 * [3 months, 4 weeks ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-rearranges-posts/#post-18813964)
 * [@nicksinclair](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nicksinclair/) thanks for
   reaching out. There is nothing in the plugin that modifies any data of existing
   posts, so I’m not sure what is going on. Are you able to see the menu_order property
   of posts before and then after duplication? If the page is auto-refreshing after
   duplicating posts it’s possible that when the page refreshes it’s just ordering
   the posts by name or id instead of menu_order which would make them seem out 
   of order. But, the refresh should be refreshing with the same query vars and 
   keep the same order.
 * Can you let me know what plugin you are using the help rearrange posts?
 *  Thread Starter [Nick Sinclair](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nicksinclair/)
 * (@nicksinclair)
 * [3 months, 3 weeks ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-rearranges-posts/#post-18814545)
 * Hi [@joemc](https://wordpress.org/support/users/joemc/),
 * The plugin I’m using is [Simple Custom Post Order](https://wordpress.org/plugins-wp/simple-custom-post-order/)
 * I tested it again and it seems as though the problem might be that:
    - I rearrange my posts using SCPO
       * Front page is now menu_order = 1
    - Hit refresh
    - Rearrange some more (without refreshing)
    - Duplicate a page with your plugin (which refreshes the page)
    - Now the pages are listed by post_title ASC rather than menu_order
       * Front page is now menu_order = 35
 * It’s possible it’s a conflict with SCPO because I _think_ the way that plugin
   is working is that it saves the post order on _page load / unload / refresh_ 
   rather than using an AJAX request.
 * Let me know if a video might help.
 * Thanks!
 *  Plugin Support [Joe](https://wordpress.org/support/users/joemc/)
 * (@joemc)
 * [3 months, 3 weeks ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-rearranges-posts/#post-18821522)
 * [@nicksinclair](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nicksinclair/) thanks for
   the further explanation and description. I have installed SPCO locally, ran some
   tests and believe I have found the reason this is happening. I’ll be releasing
   an update in the next few days that should resolve the issue, specific to SPCO.
 *  Plugin Support [Joe](https://wordpress.org/support/users/joemc/)
 * (@joemc)
 * [3 months, 2 weeks ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-rearranges-posts/#post-18825068)
 * [@nicksinclair](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nicksinclair/) I believe 
   I have this issue resolved with the latest update I released today. Please check
   it out when you get a chance and let me know if you still have any issues.
 *  Thread Starter [Nick Sinclair](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nicksinclair/)
 * (@nicksinclair)
 * [3 months, 2 weeks ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-rearranges-posts/#post-18825284)
 * Mate, thank you, that’s awesome and you’re awesome.
 * The only thing that could make that better would be if it were possible to use
   the menu_order of the item you’ve duplicated and then add 1 to that, so that 
   when the page refreshes the copy appears _after _the object you originally duplicated,
   but I’m not sure how that would affect the rest of the ordering.
 * This is certainly working great for the time being though; I might just configure
   the plugin so that when the new post is created, it automatically goes into “
   Edit” instead of refreshing the page so the users don’t have to search for the
   copy at the bottom of the screen.
 * Thanks again for your hard work. It’s a great plugin.
 * N.
 *  Plugin Support [Joe](https://wordpress.org/support/users/joemc/)
 * (@joemc)
 * [3 months, 2 weeks ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-rearranges-posts/#post-18825705)
 * Thanks for confirming that it’s working!
 * I understand your desire for the menu_order increment, but after looking into
   how SCPO works, any conflicting menu_order index causes the initial issue you
   were seeing. So, the best way to ensure existing menu_order indexes aren’t modified
   was to set the cloned post index to the highest index + 1.
 *  Thread Starter [Nick Sinclair](https://wordpress.org/support/users/nicksinclair/)
 * (@nicksinclair)
 * [3 months, 2 weeks ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-rearranges-posts/#post-18826505)
 * Yeah, understood – thanks again!

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