Title: [Plugin: W3 Total Cache] Broken Visual Editor
Last modified: August 20, 2016

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# [Plugin: W3 Total Cache] Broken Visual Editor

 *  Resolved [Leszek.ee](https://wordpress.org/support/users/leszekee/)
 * (@leszekee)
 * [14 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-w3-total-cache-broken-visual-editor/)
 * W3 Total Cache + Ultimate TinyMCE = Visual Editor doesn’t want to appear.
 * When I unloaded Ultimate TinyMCE, Visual Editor started to work.
 * I think that W3 Total Cache isn’t loading (caching?) some js which belong to 
   Ultimate TinyMCE.
 * With W3 Total Cache: [http://screenshooter.net/3241371/pvnflyn](http://screenshooter.net/3241371/pvnflyn)
   **
   Without:** [http://screenshooter.net/3241371/lymqpek](http://screenshooter.net/3241371/lymqpek)
 * Related post: [https://wordpress.org/support/topic/w3-total-cache-and-tinymce?replies=2](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/w3-total-cache-and-tinymce?replies=2)
 * Some of my settings: [http://screenshooter.net/3241371/babyagj](http://screenshooter.net/3241371/babyagj)(
   Minify)
    [http://screenshooter.net/3241371/pavjmjh](http://screenshooter.net/3241371/pavjmjh)(
   Browser Cache)
 * How to deal with this inconvenience?
 * [http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/w3-total-cache/](http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/w3-total-cache/)

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 *  [Josh](https://wordpress.org/support/users/josh401/)
 * (@josh401)
 * [14 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-w3-total-cache-broken-visual-editor/#post-2486148)
 * Hello,
 * I am the developer for “Ultimate TinyMCE”. I will download the “W3 Total Cache”
   later tonight and see if I can replicate the problem.
 * I’ll post back here in a few hours and have an update for you.
 * Have you tried “deselecting” the minify option in total cache (kinda defeats 
   the purpose, I guess), but it would help in isolating the problem.
 * – Josh
 *  Thread Starter [Leszek.ee](https://wordpress.org/support/users/leszekee/)
 * (@leszekee)
 * [14 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-w3-total-cache-broken-visual-editor/#post-2486281)
 * Hi,
 * Yes, I have. But after disabling “Object Cache” ([http://screenshooter.net/3241371/fsbeubk](http://screenshooter.net/3241371/fsbeubk))
   Ultimate TinyMCE started to work again :).
 * My advanced settings of “Object Cache”: [http://screenshooter.net/3241371/okfndgl](http://screenshooter.net/3241371/okfndgl)
 * **EDIT:** Strange.. When I **turned off** “Network Performance & Security powered
   by CloudFlare”, Ultimate TinyMCE disappears again. I’m refreshing page with Ctrl
   + F5 after changes which I made in W3 Total Cache.
 * **EDIT 2:** Even stranger.. “Object Cache” is off and Ultimate TinyMCE dosn’t
   work. After deselecting Minify it’s working again.
    **Summary:** Object Cache:
   off + Minify: off = Ultimate TinyMCE works.
 *  [Psycho MD](https://wordpress.org/support/users/psycho-md/)
 * (@psycho-md)
 * [14 years, 3 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-w3-total-cache-broken-visual-editor/#post-2486519)
 * I also am experiencing the problem.
 * Clicking on visual didn’t work. Clicking to insert a graphic appeared to work
   but nothing showed up in the edit box. I was able to type in text but it disappeared
   when I tried to save.
 * The tech at the host erased the folders for all plugins. It was still broken.
   He discovered that going to user and disabling the visual editor permitted using
   the HTML editing. That is where I am now and I’m lousy at HTML.
 *  [Josh](https://wordpress.org/support/users/josh401/)
 * (@josh401)
 * [14 years, 3 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-w3-total-cache-broken-visual-editor/#post-2486521)
 * Hi,
 * It also sounds like a plugin conflict. You shouldn’t have to disable the visual
   editor, though.
 * So even with the plugin deleted, you still cannot access the visual tab in your
   editor?
 *  [Psycho MD](https://wordpress.org/support/users/psycho-md/)
 * (@psycho-md)
 * [14 years, 3 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-w3-total-cache-broken-visual-editor/#post-2486522)
 * The plugin was not only deleted but the host deleted all of the plugin folders
   and I updated WordPress to the latest version.
 * I would think that might clear it up, however someone on my theme’s support forum
   said he was always wary of new plugins because some wrote to the database. He
   wasn’t able to go further because of his lack of familiarity with SQL. I might
   need to look for someone adept at SQL. There seems to be few options remaining.
 *  [Josh](https://wordpress.org/support/users/josh401/)
 * (@josh401)
 * [14 years, 3 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-w3-total-cache-broken-visual-editor/#post-2486523)
 * That’s true, a lot do write to the database. But most of the best, highly developed,
   plugins will write to the database… so you would be missing a lot by only using
   this criteria.
 * However, very few plugins are malicious (as far as I’ve seen). It is true that
   some can cause issues with your theme, installation, or database. That’s why 
   it’s always important to backup before “trying” a new plugin.
 * Here are a few considerations when looking at new plugins:
    1. What is it’s rating?
   2. How many downloads does it have? 3. How many say it works vs broken? 4. Is
   there a support forum or area for help with the plugin? 5. Is the plugin author
   responsive (like we are doing here)?
 * If you would like me to take a closer look at your installation, let me know 
   and I’ll provide you with a way to contact me securely with your login info.
 * – Josh
 *  [Psycho MD](https://wordpress.org/support/users/psycho-md/)
 * (@psycho-md)
 * [14 years, 3 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-w3-total-cache-broken-visual-editor/#post-2486524)
 * I appreciate the offer and would like to take advantage of it.
 *  [Josh](https://wordpress.org/support/users/josh401/)
 * (@josh401)
 * [14 years, 3 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-w3-total-cache-broken-visual-editor/#post-2486525)
 * Okay.. you can use my contact form on my personal site here:
    [http://www.joshlobe.com/contact-me/](http://www.joshlobe.com/contact-me/)
 * Send me an admin level username and password. I’ll take a quick look at the admin
   panel and see if I can find anything “funny”.
 * Oh, and include your site url.
 *  [Psycho MD](https://wordpress.org/support/users/psycho-md/)
 * (@psycho-md)
 * [14 years, 3 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-w3-total-cache-broken-visual-editor/#post-2486526)
 * Thanks for the help. the problem is solved.
 *  Thread Starter [Leszek.ee](https://wordpress.org/support/users/leszekee/)
 * (@leszekee)
 * [14 years, 2 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-w3-total-cache-broken-visual-editor/#post-2486549)
 * Hi,
 * another problem: [http://screenshooter.net/6170927/lhpsinn](http://screenshooter.net/6170927/lhpsinn)
 * I think this is problem with insufficient amount of RAM. Josh, maybe plugin can
   throw some exception about it?
 * – Leszek.ee
 *  [Josh](https://wordpress.org/support/users/josh401/)
 * (@josh401)
 * [14 years, 2 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-w3-total-cache-broken-visual-editor/#post-2486550)
 * Is it that your buttons are disappearing? This is most likely a plugin conflict
   with another plugin trying to add a button to the tinymce editor.
 * Try temporarily disabling your other plugins… and check back on your post/page.
   Let me know if it works when you deactivate your other plugins.
 *  [Francesco Canovi](https://wordpress.org/support/users/thedarkmist/)
 * (@thedarkmist)
 * [14 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-w3-total-cache-broken-visual-editor/#post-2486560)
 * I have a similar problem: with W3TotalCache the plugin seems not working. Any
   news about this incompatibility?
    Kind regards.
 *  [Josh](https://wordpress.org/support/users/josh401/)
 * (@josh401)
 * [14 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-w3-total-cache-broken-visual-editor/#post-2486561)
 * How is it not working? Can you give me some specific details?
 * Thanks.
 *  [Harley Davdison](https://wordpress.org/support/users/harley-davdison/)
 * (@harley-davdison)
 * [13 years, 11 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-w3-total-cache-broken-visual-editor/#post-2486573)
 * I am having the same problem, how ever my conflict seems to be with E-Newsletter
   from WPMU DEV.
 *  [DeerMtn](https://wordpress.org/support/users/deermtn/)
 * (@deermtn)
 * [13 years, 9 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-w3-total-cache-broken-visual-editor/#post-2486577)
 * Hi Josh,
    I have been having this problem for quite a while(months?) and I do
   not have any of those plugins active/installed. I noticed the first time it occurred
   was with my newsletter plugin; when editing the text that the user would receive
   in their email or onsite, I would only have access to the html portion of the
   editor. The visual editor tab is there, but clicking on it does nothing. However,
   when I would change _**any **_setting in UTmce and save the settings, my visual
   editor would be available again!? I haven’t thought too much about it as I’ve
   not been able to work on the site for a while. Tonight though, I was backing 
   up my UTMce buttons and decided I wanted to change some things about my signature.
   It is currently only allowing me to work with the html side of the editor, so
   I cannot do much. I have not been able to change this, even after deactivating
   my other plugins etc. However, I tried changing a random setting and now, the
   Visual Editor is back with all of its Ultimate TinyMCE goodness intact?! I believe
   that this problem started after an UTMce upgrade, but I don’t remember which.
   =( It definitely seems to be something that is defunct with UTMce to me… I finally
   decided to come on the forum tonight and see if anyone else was having this problem–
   I see there are some, but I’m not seeing a “fix” for it. Modifying which plugins
   are installed/activated has never been a solution for this issue on _my _end,
   so I hope you’ll have a direction to go in other than this…. Thanks! ~ _freida_

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