Title: [Plugin: WP-Table Reloaded] rows lost based on which "update changes button" selected Last modified: August 19, 2016 --- # [Plugin: WP-Table Reloaded] rows lost based on which "update changes button" selected * [phidesig](https://wordpress.org/support/users/phidesig/) * (@phidesig) * [15 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-wp-table-reloaded-rows-lost-based-on-which-update-changes-button-selected/) * Hi, * I have a little league baseball site that used a number of tables for schedules standings etc. [http://WWW.dunbarbaseball.ca](http://WWW.dunbarbaseball.ca) * For the longer tables (lets say 80 rows) I have a problem when updating changes. * If I select the “update changes button” under the Table information section of the wp-Table dashboard then the table gets truncated to about 44 rows. * If I select the “update changes button” under the Data Manipulation section of the wp-Table dashboard then the table remains intact and no rows are deleted. * I know what your are thinking. Suhosin settings…. I had the server set up first with much larger variable settings 5000. no change. And then had them turn off all together. Same result. This is very frustrating and if I can’t fix it I will have to just use a manual html table for these large ones as I can’t train multiple people to constantly re-import the table when the press the wrong “update changes button” * Cheers Joe Viewing 7 replies - 1 through 7 (of 7 total) * Plugin Author [Tobias Bäthge](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tobiasbg/) * (@tobiasbg) * [15 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-wp-table-reloaded-rows-lost-based-on-which-update-changes-button-selected/#post-2035058) * Hi Joe, * I’m really sorry for the trouble, you are experiencing. And you are right, my first guess for such problems is Suhosin. * I really can’t imagine how those two buttons could result in a different outcome( and I actually hear this for the first time). They are programmed in the same way and they trigger the same HTTP POST process. So, unless there’s something wrong on the receiving end (the server or PHP (and here, usually Suhosin)), there’s something weird going on with your browser (the sending end of the transmission), or the transmission itself (maybe packet loss, due to a slow connection?). * Can you reproduce this from different computers/browsers? Can you reproduce after turning a few other plugins off (to decrease the used PHP memory)? * Regards, Tobias * Thread Starter [phidesig](https://wordpress.org/support/users/phidesig/) * (@phidesig) * [15 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-wp-table-reloaded-rows-lost-based-on-which-update-changes-button-selected/#post-2035382) * Actually I am having classic Suhosin problems. When I save it sometimes does not save the updates. ANd it truncates rows in tables. * I do not know how to test if Suhosin is really off. and do not have enough knowledge to trouble shoot servers. * How many is a lot of plugins? * I really like wp-table but I need to get it working soon. * The only sure way to update tables for me is to re-import them with the new data. Not effective. * Plugin Author [Tobias Bäthge](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tobiasbg/) * (@tobiasbg) * [15 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-wp-table-reloaded-rows-lost-based-on-which-update-changes-button-selected/#post-2035383) * Hi, * yes, that definitely sounds like a Suhosin problem. * I’m also not that much into fixing server issues, so I suggest to contact your webhost to obtain information on whether Suhosin is installed. And if yes, you should ask them to deactivate it or to raise the limits. * Regards, Tobias * Thread Starter [phidesig](https://wordpress.org/support/users/phidesig/) * (@phidesig) * [15 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-wp-table-reloaded-rows-lost-based-on-which-update-changes-button-selected/#post-2035384) * They have said that they at first raised limits and then they deactivated the Suhosin service. So I am not sure what to test. * You mentioned too many plugins has that been a common problem? How many are too many? I do not have a large site. * [http://WWW.dunbarbaseball.ca](http://WWW.dunbarbaseball.ca) * is there a way, or certain logs to look in to see where the problem is when I execute an update in WP-table and it fails to execute correctly? * Plugin Author [Tobias Bäthge](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tobiasbg/) * (@tobiasbg) * [15 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-wp-table-reloaded-rows-lost-based-on-which-update-changes-button-selected/#post-2035385) * Hi, * if they now have deactivated Suhosin, you should no longer have trouble with losing table rows, actually… * I can’t say “how many are too many” [plugins], because they are all working differently and they are all consuming a different amount of memory. Can you check how much memory PHP is allowed to use? 64MB should be the minimum, 128MB would be better. * Unfortunately, I’m not aware of any such log files, where this might be recorded, sorry. * Regards, Tobias * Thread Starter [phidesig](https://wordpress.org/support/users/phidesig/) * (@phidesig) * [15 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-wp-table-reloaded-rows-lost-based-on-which-update-changes-button-selected/#post-2035394) * If I deactivate the plugin and reactivate will all my tables still be there? Joe * Plugin Author [Tobias Bäthge](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tobiasbg/) * (@tobiasbg) * [15 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-wp-table-reloaded-rows-lost-based-on-which-update-changes-button-selected/#post-2035400) * Hi, * yes, the tables will still be there (except if you checked the checkbox to have the tables removed upon deinstallatation, on the “Plugin Options” screen). Reactivating is however not going to help here, I assume. * Best wishes, Tobias Viewing 7 replies - 1 through 7 (of 7 total) The topic ‘[Plugin: WP-Table Reloaded] rows lost based on which "update changes button" selected’ is closed to new replies. * ![](https://s.w.org/plugins/geopattern-icon/wp-table-reloaded_f7dcd3.svg) * [WP-Table Reloaded](https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-table-reloaded/) * [Frequently Asked Questions](https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-table-reloaded/#faq) * [Support Threads](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/wp-table-reloaded/) * [Active Topics](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/wp-table-reloaded/active/) * [Unresolved Topics](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/wp-table-reloaded/unresolved/) * [Reviews](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/wp-table-reloaded/reviews/) * 7 replies * 2 participants * Last reply from: [Tobias Bäthge](https://wordpress.org/support/users/tobiasbg/) * Last activity: [15 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-wp-table-reloaded-rows-lost-based-on-which-update-changes-button-selected/#post-2035400) * Status: not resolved