Title: Possible issue
Last modified: August 24, 2016

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# Possible issue

 *  Resolved [Handoko](https://wordpress.org/support/users/handoko-zhang/)
 * (@handoko-zhang)
 * [11 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/possible-issue-1/)
 * This plugin sounds interesting, I have read the information about login cool-
   down system of this plugin.
 * I really want to try this plugin. But I can think of an issue that may happen
   if I install this plugin.
 * One of my website has been attacked by a single IP since 2 days ago. It access
   my /wp-login.php about 4 times every minutes. It has generated more than 10 thousands
   login attempts so far.
 * If I install Simple Security Firewall and set the Login Cooldown Interval = 60
   seconds, chances I’m not not able to login will be high. Because someone just
   tried to login recently. But if I set the interval less than 15 seconds, this
   plugin is useless to slow down the login bots, isn’t it?
 * I build and monitor several websites, and I study their login bots’ patterns.
   They’re now more clever. They won’t come back in just seconds. Many of them will
   try to login again after several hours (using same IP). They’re persistent, only
   will give up after may days of trying.
 * [https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-simple-firewall/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-simple-firewall/)

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 *  Plugin Author [Paul](https://wordpress.org/support/users/paultgoodchild/)
 * (@paultgoodchild)
 * [11 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/possible-issue-1/#post-6121829)
 * Spread over 2 days, 10,000 login attempts isn’t actually a lot… it sounds like
   a lot, but it’s hardly anything. This means they’re accessing about once ever
   15-20s. That’s not a brute force attack.
 * Take a look at this:
    [http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/739874/how-many-possible-combinations-in-8-character-password](http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/739874/how-many-possible-combinations-in-8-character-password)
 * You will see that with even a “small” 8 character alphanumeric password, the 
   possible permutations are HUGE.
 * 10,000… is hardly nothing.
 * The login protection cooldown fights proper brute force attacks very effectively
   since even with a 10s cooldown, it could take up to 567200 days to crack an 8-
   digit password.
 * That’s quite effective. Without a cooldown, you’re in trouble.
 * That’s assuming you even know the admin login username to attack.
 * If they’re giving up after a few days and they have a cooldown of 10-20s, they’re
   not going to get anywhere.
 * * Also, you could whitelist your own IP address so you’re not affected by the
   cooldown system. 🙂
 * I hope that helps.
    Thanks, Paul.
 *  Thread Starter [Handoko](https://wordpress.org/support/users/handoko-zhang/)
 * (@handoko-zhang)
 * [11 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/possible-issue-1/#post-6121855)
 * Thanks for the reply. Okay, I missed the “whitelist IP feature”. But, what should
   I put if my internet provided doesn’t provide me a static IP? Also, what if I
   tried to login when I’m having vacation on other countries?
 * Yep, 10,000 login attempts isn’t much. The worst I ever had is 80,000 attempts
   coming together from 2 IPs attacking a single site. They all failed, but the 
   thing I don’t like is they’re burdening my server and wasting the bandwidth.
 * So, what is you suggestion for the cooldown interval that is good for most cases?
   For you information, I haven’t install your plugin yet.
 * I’ve just checked my cPanel log, and I can see it’s still trying to login to 
   one of my site. I was thinking to manually block it via htaccess. But I found
   you’re correct as you mentioned on your plugin’s description page that banning
   IPs isn’t a good idea.
 * Anyways, Simple Security Firewall seems to be a good security plugin. I’ll sure
   to try it someday.
 * Note:
    Providing some screenshot pictures will make more people want to try your
   plugin. Some people (including me) are too lazy to watch the 6 minutes introduction
   video.
 *  Plugin Author [Paul](https://wordpress.org/support/users/paultgoodchild/)
 * (@paultgoodchild)
 * [11 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/possible-issue-1/#post-6121884)
 * The login cooldown period is really up to you and how you think it best suits
   your site and its uses. I can’t say to be honest. I put it at 60s for my sites,
   but that suits my profile.
 * As to the bandwidth burden… unfortunately there’s not a lot to be done there 
   about that. If the IP really is constant, you could temporarily ban it in your.
   htaccess, but as you know, this doesn’t scale.
 * As to the screenshots etc., you’re right, I can definitely do better to help 
   people get started. You also need to put a higher priority on understanding the
   tools you use… it’s up to you. A security plugin doesn’t fix everything, it provides
   you the tools to do what you can to protect yourself, but you still have to know
   what you’re doing. But if 6 minutes is too long to learn a bit more about a security
   plugin, that’s not something I can fix.
 * Thanks for the feedback.

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