Title: Problem with speed Last modified: May 29, 2018 --- # Problem with speed * Resolved [considerthis1](https://wordpress.org/support/users/considerthis1/) * (@considerthis1) * [8 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problem-with-speed/) * Hi, On my iPhone it takes ages to go from one page to another. I don’t use my phone for the internet, so I was seriously SHOCKED. * I can see why Google doesn’t put my AMP pages in good positions in Search. * What can be done to improve the speed? * If I remove all but two ads, will that help? * Would it help if I didn’t have the breadcrumbs? * My AMP pages are SLOW SLOW SLOW. They are vastly slower than my desktop pages. * Solution???? * Karen Kline * The page I need help with: _[[log in](https://login.wordpress.org/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwordpress.org%2Fsupport%2Ftopic%2Fproblem-with-speed%2F%3Foutput_format%3Dmd&locale=en_US) to see the link]_ Viewing 9 replies - 1 through 9 (of 9 total) * [frenchomatic](https://wordpress.org/support/users/frenchomatic/) * (@frenchomatic) * [8 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problem-with-speed/#post-10338586) * AMP pages don’t seem particularly slower to me but they are slow generally for both canonical and for AMP variants. * There are many potential reasons for the slowness ranging from hosting provider to compression to embedded google ads. My guess is it is the latter of these. * Your AMP page (actually put a amp/ on the end or you will also get the overhead of a redirect) is just over 0.5 MB so it is relatively small. It gets good pagespeed and yslow scores. It should be fast and definitely under a second to load. You are also using cloudflare and that should make things pretty quick too. On the canonical page you use a caching plugin so cloudflare should be taking some advantage of that when building out the AMP page’s html. * One thing I notice is you do not have compression turned on within the AMP plugin. You may get a minor improvement by using that. You can do that in the plugin’s admin panel. * Now do a test here from your closest location using * [https://tools.pingdom.com/](https://tools.pingdom.com/) * Now deactivate google ads and see what load times you get. I think the reason is that google ads are triggering this problem * “The requests for the following URLs don’t fit in a single packet. Reducing the size of these requests could reduce latency”. * Also try deactivating the caching plugin and then clear caches on cloudflare and test again. It is possible that your caching plugin is slowing cloudflare down. Generally I have found W3 total cache to work best with cloudflare. Then look at excluding other plugins which may be getting in the way. There is a facility in the AMP plugin to deactivate plugins when building AMP pages. You seem to be using quite a lot of plugins and it could be any one of them. * As an addendum, when I use google page speed insights it is saying server response time is awful = Server response time measures how long it takes to load the necessary HTML to begin rendering the page from your server. - This reply was modified 8 years ago by [frenchomatic](https://wordpress.org/support/users/frenchomatic/). - This reply was modified 8 years ago by [frenchomatic](https://wordpress.org/support/users/frenchomatic/). - This reply was modified 8 years ago by [frenchomatic](https://wordpress.org/support/users/frenchomatic/). - This reply was modified 8 years ago by [frenchomatic](https://wordpress.org/support/users/frenchomatic/). * Thread Starter [considerthis1](https://wordpress.org/support/users/considerthis1/) * (@considerthis1) * [8 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problem-with-speed/#post-10338998) * Hi, Wow, this is interesting. I thought I had all the settings right, but… maybe not. * Okay, I’m checking into it. By “compression” do you mean “minify”??? I didn’t have that turned on because when I tried to use it with W3 Super Cache it weirded out my site. * I just switched it on… so I’ll quickly do some Pingdom tests… here are the results [https://off-grid-insights.com/amp-pages-slower-than-desktop/](https://off-grid-insights.com/amp-pages-slower-than-desktop/) * Thread Starter [considerthis1](https://wordpress.org/support/users/considerthis1/) * (@considerthis1) * [8 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problem-with-speed/#post-10339004) * Yes… many reasons for slowness. I ran a Pingdom test for both desktop and amp, so there would be a basis for comparison. * I don’t know what an overhead is in relation to site pages… * lol re the reduce size things… most of those refer to Google ad stuff. I don’t have a lot of control over that stuff… lol * I didn’t know I was using a caching plugin. I thought I removed them. The InMotion Hosting techs said the caching plugins, in themselves, added a bit of slowness, so since I was already using Cloudflare it was better not to use a plug in. You can see that my desktop speeds are pretty good, so I think they were right… * I pay quite a lot for VPS from InMotion, so overall my server times are… not that bad. * Thread Starter [considerthis1](https://wordpress.org/support/users/considerthis1/) * (@considerthis1) * [8 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problem-with-speed/#post-10339007) * Thank you so much for taking the time to give me suggestions. I learned one very valuable thing… that AMP caching plugin isn’t very costly… I had thought I had to buy PRO in order to get it… * Thank you SO MUCH !!! * As an aside, the original material from The AMP project said that AMP pages are supposed to load in three seconds or less… * I’m thinking that the reason Google search hardly sends me any visitors anymore, is that my pages aren’t fast enough to qualify for AMP… * Thread Starter [considerthis1](https://wordpress.org/support/users/considerthis1/) * (@considerthis1) * [8 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problem-with-speed/#post-10339049) * OMG OMG I never had a page load in under a second before. I am beyond happy with the Cache extension. Thank YOU so so so MUCH!!!! * Thread Starter [considerthis1](https://wordpress.org/support/users/considerthis1/) * (@considerthis1) * [8 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problem-with-speed/#post-10339063) * Frenchomatic… I haven’t been this happy in AGES. Thank you 🙂 And, thank you AMPforWP… Mohammed and Ahmed 🙂 🙂 * [frenchomatic](https://wordpress.org/support/users/frenchomatic/) * (@frenchomatic) * [8 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problem-with-speed/#post-10340296) * If you are still using W3 total cache to minify use Cloudflare to do that instead. You don’t want to be doing it in 2 places. Cloudflare minification tends to be more robust and cause less issues. * If the topic is resolved then please mark it in the sidebar as such. - This reply was modified 8 years ago by [frenchomatic](https://wordpress.org/support/users/frenchomatic/). - This reply was modified 8 years ago by [frenchomatic](https://wordpress.org/support/users/frenchomatic/). * Thread Starter [considerthis1](https://wordpress.org/support/users/considerthis1/) * (@considerthis1) * [8 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problem-with-speed/#post-10341550) * I hated how complex W3 was, and stopped using it some time ago. * Thank you for your Excellent help re speed. * Karen * I marked it as resolved yesterday. Don’t know why that isn’t showing… it sounds as if you can’t see it. * Plugin Contributor [ampforwp](https://wordpress.org/support/users/ampforwp/) * (@ampforwp) * [8 years ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/problem-with-speed/#post-10343868) * Hello [@considerthis1](https://wordpress.org/support/users/considerthis1/) * Thank you for using our plugin and glad that your speed issue is fixed. 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