Title: Request: change default admin sort order
Last modified: August 19, 2020

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# Request: change default admin sort order

 *  Resolved [smerriman](https://wordpress.org/support/users/smerriman/)
 * (@smerriman)
 * [5 years, 9 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/request-change-default-admin-sort-order/)
 * When you first visit the “Sort by order” page, items are ordered alphabetically(
   due to the admin query being `orderby=menu_order+title&order=asc` and no items
   having a menu_order set).
 * After you set a manual order, all items have a unique menu_order set.
 * When you then start creating new items, its default position will appear to the
   user to be somewhat random. For example, if you add 5 new items, the first *6*
   items will be sorted alphabetically (including the first old item).
 * I would prefer to tell my clients this:
 * “By default, the most recent item you create will appear at the top,” [or bottom,
   depending on use case], ” but if you want it to appear somewhere else you can
   click on Sort by order”.
 * As opposed to this:
 * “Every single time you create a new item, you need to revisit the Sort by order
   page and make sure it in the position you want, because it may appear in a random
   position to begin with”.
 * Even if you didn’t make this the default behaviour, are you able to adjust the
   sort_by_order_link function to make the parameters filterable (for both the URL,
   and the ‘current’ check)? I can filter into views myself, remove your link, and
   add my own one, though it would be nicer if it were built in to ensure this doesn’t
   break in a future update.

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 *  Thread Starter [smerriman](https://wordpress.org/support/users/smerriman/)
 * (@smerriman)
 * [5 years, 9 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/request-change-default-admin-sort-order/#post-13290409)
 * Minor bug in my above post – since the sort interface makes the first item 1,
   it would only be the 5 new items which are sorted alphabetically, rather than
   6 as I mentioned above. But still the same overall glitchy effect.
 *  [Tung Du](https://wordpress.org/support/users/dinhtungdu/)
 * (@dinhtungdu)
 * [5 years, 9 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/request-change-default-admin-sort-order/#post-13302072)
 * Hi [@smerriman](https://wordpress.org/support/users/smerriman/), I created an
   issue on the repo of this plugin on Github – our development channel. Please 
   follow that issue instead: [https://github.com/10up/simple-page-ordering/issues/66](https://github.com/10up/simple-page-ordering/issues/66)

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 * Last activity: [5 years, 9 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/request-change-default-admin-sort-order/#post-13302072)
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