Title: Visual editor behaving poorly Last modified: August 20, 2016 --- # Visual editor behaving poorly * [rwilki](https://wordpress.org/support/users/rwilki/) * (@rwilki) * [13 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/) * It’s really strange. I had not noticed this in 3.5 but on every site I’ve updated to 3.5.1. * First of all, the shift + return (mac) isn’t creating a line break anymore. No matter what I do, everything has a paragraph return. * The bigger problem is when I delete a paragraph or a hard return, it changes the style of text block to italic. Here’s the code I saw in html mode `` * I’ve never seen this before. Sometimes, when I try to edit my text it affects text I have a paragraph above what I’m editing. This is REALLY frustrating. I’ve never loved tinyMCE but I can’t have this. * I have reset all my plugins and deactivated them. It’s not my theme either. I’ve tried this. Any other ideas? Is there something with tinyMCE and 3.5.1? * Thanks, and please help. Viewing 15 replies - 1 through 15 (of 16 total) 1 [2](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/page/2/?output_format=md) [→](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/page/2/?output_format=md) * Thread Starter [rwilki](https://wordpress.org/support/users/rwilki/) * (@rwilki) * [13 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/#post-3468052) * forgot to mention, I’m using chrome… * Thread Starter [rwilki](https://wordpress.org/support/users/rwilki/) * (@rwilki) * [13 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/#post-3468054) * just tried this line in wp-config file `define(‘CONCATENATE_SCRIPTS’, false );` but did not work… * The bug is recorded here [http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23337](http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23337) but I don’t understand what to do with the code from github. Any help would be great… * Thanks, Bob * Thread Starter [rwilki](https://wordpress.org/support/users/rwilki/) * (@rwilki) * [13 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/#post-3468055) * tested in my browser on tinyMCE site and works fine… * Thread Starter [rwilki](https://wordpress.org/support/users/rwilki/) * (@rwilki) * [13 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/#post-3468056) * can I download tinyMCE manually and apply to wordpress somehow? * [WPyogi](https://wordpress.org/support/users/wpyogi/) * (@wpyogi) * [13 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/#post-3468057) * [http://codex.wordpress.org/Managing_Plugins#Manual_Plugin_Installation](http://codex.wordpress.org/Managing_Plugins#Manual_Plugin_Installation) * Thread Starter [rwilki](https://wordpress.org/support/users/rwilki/) * (@rwilki) * [13 years, 4 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/#post-3468058) * Thanks but tinyMCE isn’t really a plugin. It’s built into the core. Are you suggesting I download it and install as a plugin? * [InHouse](https://wordpress.org/support/users/inhouse/) * (@inhouse) * [13 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/#post-3468158) * I’d like to chime in here on this issue. I’ve noticed this on a number of sites I’ve built now. I find myself using the plain text editor as opposed to WYSIWYG. [@rwilki](https://wordpress.org/support/users/rwilki/), have you figured anything out on this? * Thread Starter [rwilki](https://wordpress.org/support/users/rwilki/) * (@rwilki) * [13 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/#post-3468159) * thanks for your email inhouse. Nope. sadly, the annoying tinyMCE editor is still a piece of garbage in chrome. I can use the text editor no problem, for that matter I could just do all my coding in dreamweaver but the idea that as a CMS it’s supposed to be a reliable Wysiwyg editing tool – it is not. * my customers come to me for a CMS solution and for the most part, wordpress is second to none. but I’ve had many complaints about how the editor behaves and all its associated quirky behavior. * supposedly, the new release will have the fix for chrome backspacing + delete but I never hold my breath. * my dream for wordpress is to have a reliable, stable, cross-platform, cross-browser editor before they keep putting new bells and whistles into the application. it’s strange that on tinyMCE’s website, the editor works quickly and flawlessly. * thanks again, Bob * [InHouse](https://wordpress.org/support/users/inhouse/) * (@inhouse) * [13 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/#post-3468160) * I noticed that as well on the TinyMCE website. It also looks a lot nicer too! I’ve had a few complaints about TinyMCE from clients as well. I noticed [CKEditor](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/wordpress.org/extend/plugins/ckeditor-for-wordpress/?output_format=md) that replaces MCE with a completely separate editor in case that’s of any interest to you. * Thread Starter [rwilki](https://wordpress.org/support/users/rwilki/) * (@rwilki) * [13 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/#post-3468161) * thanks. i’ve used it in the past. how’s it working? are your customers happy with it? * thanks, Bob * [InHouse](https://wordpress.org/support/users/inhouse/) * (@inhouse) * [13 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/#post-3468162) * I don’t use it myself. I just came across it today as I was researching the < em id=”__mceDel”> issue. I really don’t want to have to start using an entirely new editor as it would mean I have 2 systems to answer support questions for. I’ll stick it out with TinyMCE and hope it’s fixed for the next core update. Generally, I’m ok with it as the bugs are pretty small aside from this issue. * Thread Starter [rwilki](https://wordpress.org/support/users/rwilki/) * (@rwilki) * [13 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/#post-3468163) * exactly the same thing with me. it seemed fairly stable but it wasn’t perfect and it meant I needed to stay on top of two editors. I don’t know why more time isn’t devoted to improving the editor (and I’m not talking about the html, plain text editor) * guess it’s what we live with… : / * [esmi](https://wordpress.org/support/users/esmi/) * (@esmi) * [13 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/#post-3468164) * **[@rwilki](https://wordpress.org/support/users/rwilki/)**: Have you tried: * – deactivating **all** plugins to see if this resolves the problem. If this works, re-activate the plugins one by one until you find the problematic plugin(s). * – switching to the default theme to rule out any theme-specific problems. * – [resetting the plugins folder](http://codex.wordpress.org/FAQ_Troubleshooting#How_to_deactivate_all_plugins_when_not_able_to_access_the_administrative_menus.3F) by FTP or PhpMyAdmin. Sometimes, an apparently inactive plugin can still cause problems. * – re-uploading all files & folders – **except** the wp-content folder – from a **fresh** download of WordPress. Make sure that you delete the old copies of files & folder before uploading the new ones. * Thread Starter [rwilki](https://wordpress.org/support/users/rwilki/) * (@rwilki) * [13 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/#post-3468165) * thanks Esmi for your reply. I’ve done all of the above. I’m not telling you I’ve done it on every site but I know for a fact that it’s buggy for me. The chrome bug is a recorded problem so unfortunately, not just my own situation. * in the past, i’ve spent countless hours trouble shooting this and I’ve come across the same problem. * here’s the bug tracker link. [http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23337](http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/23337) * [esmi](https://wordpress.org/support/users/esmi/) * (@esmi) * [13 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/visual-editor-behaving-poorly/#post-3468166) * Looks like you’ll need to wait until 3.6 or 3.5.2 – whichever is released first. 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