Title: WordPress 5
Last modified: November 30, 2017

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# WordPress 5

 *  [jordibares](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jordibares/)
 * (@jordibares)
 * [9 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-5-2/)
 * After a few years using WordPress and being happy with the whole thing, in my
   humble opinion is time start integrating important functionality provided by 
   plugins onto the core, from content restriction to visual editors, from enhanced
   image galleries to more advanced post types.
 * Right now I have twenty something plugins that do, some of them, tiny things 
   to improve the workflow that arguably should be in the core toolset. This fragmentation
   can only be a recipe for disaster when things get complicated and you end up 
   having to go down some very strong paths to control things that should be easy
   to do.
 * For example, I use UNDSGN theme in combination with Restrict Content Pro, both
   really fantastic but, the workflow in RCP does not really take advantage of the
   theme and some bits are duplicated ending up in funny situations. Moreover, the
   look and feel on RCP needs to be hacked into submission to feel anything like
   the theme and I don’t expect a general solution coming from them but I do think
   this should be something WordPress should handle more gracefully.
 * Same for statistics, multi-language, feature image control, tagging and categorising
   things in bulk, integration with Dropbox, etc.. everything is starting to look
   like Babels tower.
 * SO… my request would be to rethink all this and make sure you do like Apple does,
   integrate features from developers into the core because the needs are changing
   and this is no longer just a blog game, but a CMS game and a very sophisticated
   one.
 * I hope it makes sense… nevertheless I want to thank the WP team who do an amazing
   job, I am sure it is not easy.
 * Thanks

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 *  [Matti Eronen](https://wordpress.org/support/users/masimies/)
 * (@masimies)
 * [9 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-5-2/#post-9074651)
 * Yep,
    Trying to create a site, where all functions can be handled from FrontPage
   has been very challenged task. Managed so far about 90% functionality with correct
   plugins. My wish is that Admin-panel is for configuration and settings only. 
   Admin resources are needed only for site management. Moving forward from blog
   game, to members game brings out more usability to WordPress. For example Ultimate
   Member and Suiteplugins are great examples for direction where to go.
 * Thanks
 *  Moderator [Samuel Wood (Otto)](https://wordpress.org/support/users/otto42/)
 * (@otto42)
 * WordPress.org Admin
 * [9 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-5-2/#post-9077560)
 * FYI, WordPress 5.0 will be the version after WordPress 4.9. We don’t consider“
   major” versions in that way. Every version of WordPress is “major” and equally
   important. WordPress 5.0 will be just as important as 4.8 is.
 *  Thread Starter [jordibares](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jordibares/)
 * (@jordibares)
 * [9 years, 1 month ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-5-2/#post-9079217)
 * I didn’t know that but now that you highlight it I do wonder why use point nomenclature
   then? seems you should call it v49 rather, don’t you think?
 * Anyway, semantics apart, my interest is in seeing the beloved WP evolve, not 
   only as an amazing engine, but a full feature set rather than a very fragmented
   environment. I hope it makes sense.
 * jb
 *  [MKSnMKS](https://wordpress.org/support/users/mksnmks/)
 * (@mksnmks)
 * [8 years, 9 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-5-2/#post-9434187)
 * Hi jordibares (@jordibares),
 * I am inclined to agree with your thoughts on **integrated plugins**.
    I also 
   like the ability for options, as it frees up the user to customize they way they
   want to do various tasks.
 * Every time somebody new sets up their site, they are having to repeat similar
   decisions that many others have made. They look for features they don’t even 
   know the names of. In the end they make choices.
 * If the plugins are fully built into WP, then (guessing), that would make it difficult
   to have a range of alternatives.
    However, an easy way to achieve a close to 
   satisfactory situation (in terms of getting the functions included), is to have
   kits of plugins available for installation in bunches, at once. (I have made 
   suggestions on this to the “Plugin Manager” plugin, but I don’t know if they 
   will advance on that.) Another option would be to have the WP installation, automatically
   install a collection of useful plugins at the start. This could possibly include
   similar options for the site admin to try out and compare.
 * You mention “**fragmentation**“. I am not quite sure what you mean by this, other
   than “generally not held together”. There are several ways in which plugins can
   be accessed to adjust their settings and use them, and it seems largely up to
   the plugin creator to choose which way they want.
 * Such methods of access to plugin functions include;
    -  Left Side Menu => Tools => Actual Plugin
       Left Side Menu => Settings => Actual
      Plugin Left Side Menu => Actual Plugin Top Bar => Actual Plugin Other Plugins
      and Admin sections get inserted in to by the Actual Plugin
 * These are all useful, and some make more sense than others in some types of use,
   while other are more sensible in other types of use.
    But there seems to be no
   uniformity to how these methods are used. The main uniformity is that very few
   if any (I’ve not seen any yet), use all methods for the one plugin.
 * Both yourself and Masimies, sound like you’re interested in “**work flow**” process,
   and easy/intuitiveness of use.
    There may be some way that workflow could be 
   standardised to encourage the uniformity of menu access within groups of plugin
   types. The objective being ; _**to be able to incorporate plugins (as needed)
   into the system, using methods, that to the user, give a greater sense of an 
   integrated workflow environment.**_
 * For example
    Menu managers get put in a “Menu” holder on the left side. similarly
   for Performance, Maintenance, Media, Shop/Commerce, membership/community, and
   other holders as the user needs (possibly able to create and assign plugins to
   these holders). The top bar seems to be an ideal location for “process/work flow
   by the site” e.g. quick menus for Author’s tools, Admin Tools, Analytics and 
   Reports, etc .
 * I think you are right on the button about being “a CMS game”.
    It’s been an adaption
   process too. It’s the “ability to adapt”, which has got WP so far, that will 
   prove to be a defining edge as the future gets ever closer (somehow tomorrow 
   never actually gets to be today – except for the cusp of midnight).
 * Things may seem a bit hotch potch at the moment, but at least things can be done,
   and more things added. With the plugin system, the system need not be any more
   complex that what the user wants.
    But we can aim for easier use.
 * A quote attributed to Einstein goes something like
 * > “Everything should be as simple as it can be, but not simpler”
 *  [Marc2014](https://wordpress.org/support/users/marc2014/)
 * (@marc2014)
 * [8 years, 6 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-5-2/#post-9736461)
 * WordPress 5, please think of coaches all over the world.
    First of all, thanks
   to WordPress I can manage my websites that well! Thanks WordPress Team! Wordpress
   5 as CMS platform, yes that’s how I look at it. So, the world of coaching is 
   very big. WordPress could solve a lot of problems all those coaches experience
   in communicating data with clients. As a coach I would like to have simple inbuild
   opportunity for a specific member to edit just his personal page, just by being
   logged in (and send to that page). On that page it should be possible to update
   certain values (weekly evaluations f.e.) and the status quo of (medicine) conditions,
   suggest or place video’s and so on. This page should be like a permanent form,
   readable and writeable for my and my client. Wow, what a CMS that would be! All
   the best to you all, Marc Scheffer (breath-therapist, Holland)
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