Title: WordPress for Node.js
Last modified: September 12, 2023

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# WordPress for Node.js

 *  [peq42](https://wordpress.org/support/users/peq42/)
 * (@peq42)
 * [2 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-for-node-js/)
 * Now I know this may have been discussed before, but considering I couldn’t find
   anything on the topic, I thought I should bring it up just in case, to create
   healthy debate on the topic.
 * WordPress for a long time has relied on PHP as its only platform, which has been
   fine since PHP is nearly universally adopted by all hosts big and small. However,
   PHP has been declining in usage. According to github’s octoverse, it went from
   4th most used programming language to 7nth in just 3 years, with tendency to 
   continue going down.
 * On the opposite hand, javascript and its twin typescript have been on the rise
   since 2009 thanks to Node.js. Many hosts nowadays offer node.js as an option 
   to create projects, and it tends to be even cheaper than normal php hosting.
 * So my idea here is to create a side version of wordpress, like tensorflow did
   with tensorflow.js. Something that internally works exactly the same, and can
   be connected to the same kinds of databases and whatnot, but use separate plugins
   and themes(ones made for node.js) in a separate repository. This way, wordpress
   as a project would be better future proofed and, considering that node.js is 
   faster and provides things that PHP doesn’t such as asynchronous programming,
   could also allow for better performance(which would be a massive plus, incentivizing
   early adoption and getting the project a jumpstart). Not to mention that javascript
   in general has far better backwards compatibility than PHP, which means easier
   backend updates to newer versions of node.js.
 * I myself have a wordpress website running in PHP 8.1(cant run php 8.2 without
   daily crashes/other problems due to incompatibility) and would happily migrate
   over given the change.
 * The page I need help with: _[[log in](https://login.wordpress.org/?redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwordpress.org%2Fsupport%2Ftopic%2Fwordpress-for-node-js%2F%3Foutput_format%3Dmd&locale=en_US)
   to see the link]_

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 *  [Harsh Gajipara](https://wordpress.org/support/users/harshgajipara/)
 * (@harshgajipara)
 * [2 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-for-node-js/#post-17047217)
 * Hi [@peq42](https://wordpress.org/support/users/peq42/),
   Thank you for bringing
   up this interesting topic for discussion. Your idea of creating a Node.js version
   of WordPress to complement the existing PHP-based one is certainly thought-provoking.
   Let’s break down some of the key points you’ve raised:
    1. **Declining Usage of PHP:** You’re right that PHP’s popularity has seen a decline
       in recent years. However, it’s essential to note that PHP still powers a significant
       portion of the web, and many websites continue to rely on it. This includes 
       WordPress, which is built on PHP. While it’s important to stay aware of technological
       trends, it’s also crucial to consider the vast existing WordPress ecosystem 
       that relies on PHP.
    2. **Rise of JavaScript and Node.js:** JavaScript, along with Node.js, has gained
       immense popularity and has a vibrant developer community. The asynchronous nature
       of Node.js, which allows for non-blocking I/O operations, does make it an appealing
       choice for certain applications.
    3. **Compatibility and Performance:** Node.js does offer some advantages in terms
       of performance and asynchronous programming, which could lead to potential benefits
       for a WordPress-like platform. However, it’s worth considering that PHP has 
       made significant improvements in recent versions, including PHP 8.0 and 8.1,
       to enhance performance and modernize the language.
    4. **Backwards Compatibility:** JavaScript indeed has strong backward compatibility,
       which can be advantageous for long-term sustainability. However, it’s essential
       to recognize that WordPress, being a mature platform, faces challenges in maintaining
       backward compatibility due to the vast number of plugins and themes available.
    5. **Migration and Adoption:** Migration from one technology stack to another is
       a complex process, especially for a platform as large and diverse as WordPress.
       Ensuring a smooth transition for users and developers would be a significant
       undertaking.
 * In summary, your idea has merit, particularly in terms of exploring new technologies
   and improving performance. However, any major shift like this would require careful
   planning, significant development effort, and a robust migration strategy to 
   ensure a seamless transition for existing WordPress users and developers.
 * It’s also worth mentioning that the WordPress ecosystem is adaptable and often
   incorporates new technologies through plugins and themes. Many developers have
   already integrated JavaScript and Node.js into their WordPress projects. While
   creating a separate Node.js-based WordPress version is a substantial endeavor,
   it’s worth exploring how existing WordPress can continue to evolve to embrace
   these technologies while maintaining backward compatibility.
 * Overall, your proposal sparks a valuable conversation about the future of WordPress
   and its technology stack, and it’s important to consider the implications and
   challenges from various angles before embarking on such a significant change.
 * Let me create a ticket on core trec to make this topic more accessible to the
   WordPress contributors and core team to share their ideas. you can track the 
   topic on below url.
   [https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/59335](https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/59335)
 * Thanks!
    -  This reply was modified 2 years, 8 months ago by [Harsh Gajipara](https://wordpress.org/support/users/harshgajipara/).
 *  [Mário Valney](https://wordpress.org/support/users/mariovalney/)
 * (@mariovalney)
 * [2 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-for-node-js/#post-17047507)
 * Hi!
 * I’ll try to give my understanding about WP.
 * _(First of all, I love WP so my DEV side really want to see something like this.
   Imagine WP paradigm into JS like AdonisJS for Laravel.)_
 * Everything (a good portion at least) in WordPress is about **“provide a platform
   so that even a non-techie can build a website easily without the need of understanding
   programming languages”** and about empowering non-developers.
 * Said that, we should see the most used web server language. According to [Host Advice](https://hostadvice.com/marketshare/methodology/)
   PHP is the leader by far:
    - [Language](https://hostadvice.com/marketshare/language/) Ranking
    - [Web Server](https://hostadvice.com/marketshare/server/) Ranking

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