Title: WordPress frustration
Last modified: August 18, 2016

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# WordPress frustration

 *  [desertjo](https://wordpress.org/support/users/desertjo/)
 * (@desertjo)
 * [21 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-frustration/)
 * most of this is a venting rant, so don’t anyone go getting their panties in a
   bunch or start bandying about banning threats.
    let me first say that i love 
   the idea of WordPress, and how it’s simpler to use than MT. but after that, getting
   support for esoteric problems is impossible. it’s very hard to believe that out
   of the 5-6 questions i’ve posted here i’ve had ZERO responses, outside of Fahim
   continuing a conversation we’d started in email about his Blacklist plugin. no
   help, no suggestions of what to look for, no offers of ideas of how to proceed
   next… it’s very frustrating. i switched a high profile, high traffic politics
   group blog off of MT to WP back at the end of August because of system load problems
   that MT was causing, and i chose to go with a 1.3alpha to save myself some conversion
   issues from 1.2 to 1.3 later on. but the absolute silence i’ve gotten to all 
   of my questions has been rather disconcerting, and definitely not what i’ve come
   to expect from an open source collective of creative and inquisitive minds. the
   fact that others have found my posts, and emailed me privately, asking if i got
   any responses to my questions (and could i possibly tell them, because they’re
   having the same issue and getting no answers) also troubles me. did i make a 
   mistake in going with WordPress, or just a mistake in going with 1.3 too soon?
   can i at least get one of the developers (or anyone?) to point me at what to 
   look for to find out what’s causing [my archives issue](http://wordpress.org/support/6/14388)?
   are there limitations in the db or software that makes it not viable for a site
   like [The American Street](http://www.reachm.com/amstreet/)? will my upgrading
   to a newer alpha fix these problems, or make them worse? do i have to start an
   extensive search for a new blogging tool again, and ask some the 50+ contributing
   authors to learn yet another blogging interface after just a few months? (the
   more active posters love WP, btw, once they figured out all the little buttons).
   this is a pretty major issue for a politics site that gets a few dozen thousand
   readers per day, and having no significant archives available on-site is pretty
   lame. little help? please?

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 *  [prara](https://wordpress.org/support/users/prara/)
 * (@prara)
 * [21 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-frustration/#post-99001)
 * Always settle for stable versions. The latest is 1.2.1. What you have is an alpha(
   not even a beta) so there are a lot of things that can go wrong unless you are
   up for some debugging.
 *  [Root](https://wordpress.org/support/users/root/)
 * (@root)
 * [21 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-frustration/#post-99003)
 * The people who answer questions on this forum are just like your self – simple
   users doing their best to help. I have read all your posts. Once you get into
   issues to do with plugins being compatible with 1.3 it is a very specialist and
   not really rewarding field. I say unrewarding because what works today may not
   work tomorrow. Once the distro begins to stabilise the plugins can catch up. 
   IMHO the advice given here is good. Install 1.2.
 *  Moderator [Matt Mullenweg](https://wordpress.org/support/users/matt/)
 * (@matt)
 * [21 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-frustration/#post-99011)
 * That’s all a little harsh, all I really meant was that on an early alpha like
   alpha-2 there could be a million things wrong, we can’t really troubleshoot unless
   you’re on a known situation, be it a stable or the latest nightly.
 *  Thread Starter [desertjo](https://wordpress.org/support/users/desertjo/)
 * (@desertjo)
 * [21 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-frustration/#post-99015)
 * thanks for the suggestion, allusion. i do want to upgrade to a newer alpha version,
   but i’m a little leery of making things worse.
    i also want to completely eliminate
   any issues that the site designer may have introduced, but i really can’t fathom
   what she could possibly have done in modifying the CSS that would have gacked
   up the archives calls.
 *  [Root](https://wordpress.org/support/users/root/)
 * (@root)
 * [21 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-frustration/#post-99024)
 * By simple – I meant plain and simple -it was not an attack on your IT credentials.
   
   But the nature of your past questions goes some way to explaining the lack of
   take up. There may be exceptions but IMHO this is the most helpful, and most 
   informed forum I have ever seen.
 *  [jonimueller](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jonimueller/)
 * (@jonimueller)
 * [21 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-frustration/#post-99028)
 * OT, I know, but @Desert-Jo, I was just checking out your site. You may want to
   check out these links for your “Investigative Journalism and Media Analysis” 
   section:
    [http://www.commondreams.org/](http://www.commondreams.org/) And one
   of my favorite writers, Robert Jensen, professor of Journalism at UT-Austin (
   Texas): [http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~rjensen/freelance/freelance.htm](http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~rjensen/freelance/freelance.htm)
   Hope you solve your problem. FWIW, I poked around in your narchives, and it would
   pull NOTHING up by date, but EVERYTHING by category. J
 *  Thread Starter [desertjo](https://wordpress.org/support/users/desertjo/)
 * (@desertjo)
 * [21 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-frustration/#post-99030)
 * sorry for the misinterpretation, Root. i know the problems i’m running into are
   not the garden variety types most users run into, but if i’m the only one, then
   not enough people are putting the alpha versions through all paces, which is 
   detrimental to everyone else in the long run… it means that what could be an 
   impressive product is merely notable.
    i’m not an old fart, but i’m starting 
   to pine for the days when people took pride in trying to break a product while
   in the alpha stages, thus ensuring it wouldn’t break when it went gold. i guess
   Microsoft’s programming standards have permeated farther downstream than i’d 
   imagined 🙂 the trackbcak ping bug i ran into seems to have been fixed in versions
   after 9/22, so current plan of action is to try something from earlier this week.
   i just have to wait until after the 3rd debate, and take advantage of the late
   night lulls during the weekend, and see what happens.
 *  Thread Starter [desertjo](https://wordpress.org/support/users/desertjo/)
 * (@desertjo)
 * [21 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-frustration/#post-99032)
 * thanks for the feedback, jonimueller…. that actually does help somewhat. kinda
   rules out a db problem. i just hope Shelley remembers what she changed in the
   CSS and can unchange it to see if that caused the issue.
    and i’ll check out 
   the Jensen link… sounds like it’d be up my alley, and for a few of the other 
   contribs at the site (i’m not the site editor, just the techie and occassional
   contributor).
 *  [Root](https://wordpress.org/support/users/root/)
 * (@root)
 * [21 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-frustration/#post-99035)
 * Well there are plenty of us testing 1.3 to destruction every day I can assure
   you. That is not quite the same as using it on a high volume and ostensibly important
   site.
 *  Moderator [Matt Mullenweg](https://wordpress.org/support/users/matt/)
 * (@matt)
 * [21 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-frustration/#post-99040)
 * Alpha-4 is better than alpha-2, we don’t bump the version unless there has been
   substantial improvements. Future feedback on alpha or beta versions would probably
   have better luck in the [Beta forums](http://wordpress.org/support/6) which is
   specific for non-stable versions. Even there though the best fix I can offer 
   with the information you’ve given is to upgrade your WP files to the latest version.
 *  [muffinboy](https://wordpress.org/support/users/muffinboy/)
 * (@muffinboy)
 * [21 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-frustration/#post-99104)
 * On the matter of not making things worse: you could copy your current setup over
   to another directory/server, copy the DB over too, (set new details in config.
   php obviously), and see if the copy of your site still works. Then, if that’s
   established, install the latest nightly on top and check whether you’ve broken
   something really badly.
 *  Thread Starter [desertjo](https://wordpress.org/support/users/desertjo/)
 * (@desertjo)
 * [21 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-frustration/#post-99333)
 * figured out part of the problem.
    there’s a problem with this version where if
   you choose X number of days to show on the index page instead of X number of 
   posts, all of your date related archives stop working. when the site went live,
   i’d chosen 35 posts for the index page, and left it alone. seems like someone
   else with admin access started mucking around in the Options, and changed it 
   to 6 days, which made everything date related disappear again. a third admin 
   caught it and changed it back, but it also uncovered a behavior that i wasn’t
   aware of… the 6 days bug permeates across all archives, monthly and category,
   so that all the monthly archives disappear (being that they are older than 6 
   days), and no category matches older than 6 days will appear either. when you
   change to X number of posts, you only get X number of posts for each month or
   category. this interesting cascade doesn’t seem to affect the narchives.php script.
   anyone know if the date bug has been fixed in alpha4? and allusion, i had been
   posting my questions about these problems in the Beta forum, but the lack of 
   response there was what made me crack open and vent here 🙂
 *  [Root](https://wordpress.org/support/users/root/)
 * (@root)
 * [21 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/wordpress-frustration/#post-99339)
 * Some time ago I added the approved code for a single cat and as a side effect
   the archives refused to show. Wierd stuff.

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