Issues with AMP plugin

  • Resolved CoolDavidoff

    (@cooldavidoff)


    10 years, 3 months ago

    Hello, I’d like to provide feedback first, bevor reviewing it (can’t delete a review later).

    I downloaded your wonderful plugin today when webmastertools told me “there is no AMP version of your site”.

    Installed it, activated it, but google still say the same. a) Any idea how long it takes google to notice that we now have (had) your wonderful plugin to create AMP compliant pages?

    Well, pages too, or only posts, like the plugin from automatic?

    Anyway, the above isn’t even my key worry, it doesn’t matter how long google takes to notice your plugin’s magic.

    BUT: HUGE ISSUE with your plugin is, it does not respect a site’s menu! So for example, take any site, it will have certain pages/posts accessable from the menu, for good reason. And others not, again for good reason.

    Yet your plugin doesn’t care. Like a bad bot really (another plugin I just looked at), your plugin “misbehaves” and shows ALL pages/posts it could find, in a blue box at the top, for the visitor to happily click and access pages he isn’t meant to access that way! Pages that can’t be locked either, in case you wanted to start arguing that way.

    To make it short, I would LOVE your plugin and support it, but had to deactivate it immediately for the above reason.

    Would you like to consider my improvement suggestion before I rate it?
    Again, thank you so much for what otherwise looks like the most wonderful plugin!

    https://ww.wp.xz.cn/plugins/accelerated-mobile-pages/

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  • Plugin Author Ahmed Kaludi

    (@ahmedkaludi)

    10 years, 3 months ago

    Let me discuss this with my co-developer and get back to you 😉

    Plugin Author Mohammed Kaludi

    (@mohammed_kaludi)

    10 years, 3 months ago

    Hi CoolDavidoff,

    Thank you very much for your feedback, I really appreciate that you took out sometime and given us some valuable feedback to improve this plugin. Here are the answers to your queries one by one.

    Q. Installed it, activated it, but google still say the same. a) Any idea how long it takes google to notice that we now have (had) your wonderful plugin to create AMP compliant pages?
    A. While developing the plugin this was the first thing in mind, when Google crawls the website it will directly knows that the site has AMP version, because in the source code it will detect the AMP tag rel=”amphtml”like this http://take.ms/PSVsu

    Q. Well, pages too, or only posts, like the plugin from automatic?
    A. This plugin will work for both Posts and Pages.

    Q. BUT: HUGE ISSUE with your plugin is, it does not respect a site’s menu! So for example, take any site, it will have certain pages/posts accessable from the menu, for good reason. And others not, again for good reason.
    A. For that we have created a custom mobile menu for the AMP Plugin, when you activate the plugin a New Menu slot will be enabled for the users to add a custom menu for the AMP version of the site. Like this http://take.ms/OMcOh .

    We have created the custom menu feature after your feedback to improve the plugin. I have pushed this feature in Version 0.4 update, please install the latest version of the plugin and do let me know your feedback.

    I thank you once again for your feedback, so that we can together make this plugin better and useful for other people.

    Mohammed Kaludi

    Thread Starter CoolDavidoff

    (@cooldavidoff)

    10 years, 3 months ago

    Hey Mohammed, thank you so much for your quick reply.
    I just tested your new v0.4, and you asked for my feedback, so here it is:

    Before (ie in v0.3) you didn’t show ALL pages (I guess because in this case here it would be too many, hehe) BUT you showed pages in the AMP menu that were nowhere in the site menu (for good reason), and so that was not usable from a client perspective. Any client, because every bigger site has many pages they don’t want to be accessible from any menu, AMP or otherwise.

    Now (ie in v0.4) we can choose the wp menu to display (thank you, VERY good solution!) BUT you nonetheless only show the TOP entries in the AMP menu. And even when the (mobile) visitor clicks a link to drill down, on the next page you still show the same TOP entries only. Thus the mobile menu is still not usable (other than to reach a top level page).

    Therefore my question: Isn’t it technically possible to have your AMP plugin merely “copy” the entire wp menu structure defined by the customer/webmaster?

    Thus top level and child levels, the whole wp menu that’s active/activated. Yet ONLY what’s defined in the wp menu (not reverting back to 0.3…).

    In my (non-expert) view this should be easy: You already make use of the top level entries, I am sure the child levels are accessable the same way, no?

    (PS: I know, your v0.4 now allows to create an extra AMP menu, and again that’s VERY good (you are brillant), nonetheless I am not sure you intended as default to only show the TOP level pages?)

    Thread Starter CoolDavidoff

    (@cooldavidoff)

    10 years, 3 months ago

    Oh and by the way, this was not an answer 😉

    Any idea how long it takes google to notice that we now have (had) your wonderful plugin to create AMP compliant pages?
    A. While developing the plugin this was the first thing in mind, when Google crawls the website it will directly knows that the site has AMP version, because in the source code it will detect the AMP tag rel=”amphtml”like this http://take.ms/PSVsu

    How long, any idea?

    Thread Starter CoolDavidoff

    (@cooldavidoff)

    10 years, 3 months ago

    Mohammed?
    I sent the feedback you requested, but you don’t reply?

    Plugin Author Mohammed Kaludi

    (@mohammed_kaludi)

    10 years, 3 months ago

    Hi CoolDavidoff,

    I apologize for not getting back to you on time, was super busy with other things.

    Can you please elaborate this part, I’m not able to understand.

    Therefore my question: Isn’t it technically possible to have your AMP plugin merely “copy” the entire wp menu structure defined by the customer/webmaster?

    And for how long it should take google to notice do we have AMP installed on the site or not?
    It really depends on multiple factors like how often google bots crawl your site and how long does it take to process and update it in search results, but my guess is it should take few days ( like 8-10 days ) before showing it in the results, or may be less for some sites depending on the factors I mentioned above.

    Thanks

    Thread Starter CoolDavidoff

    (@cooldavidoff)

    10 years, 3 months ago

    Now (ie in v0.4) we can choose the wp menu to display (thank you, VERY good solution!) BUT you nonetheless only show the TOP entries in the AMP menu.
    And even when the (mobile) visitor clicks a link to drill down, on the next page you still show the same TOP entries only. Thus the mobile menu is still not usable (other than to reach a top level page).

    So:
    In v0.3 you showed even links that are NOT in the custom menu: BAD.
    In v0.4 you show ONLY THE TOP LEVEL menu entries: Less BAD.

    Question: Why don’t you simply show ALL custom menu entries?
    Only custom menu entries, but all of them, not just the top level ones.

    Sorry but I don’t know what else to write, I find it very clear. And if you have used your own software you know very well what it showed in v0.3 and what it now shows in v0.4.

    Is my suggestion now clear enough?

    Thread Starter CoolDavidoff

    (@cooldavidoff)

    10 years, 3 months ago

    Mohammed, why do you ask people to provide feedback/suggestions, and then don’t bother to reply? Don’t waste our time, it will only waste yours too.
    So now you’ve turned me from “great plugin” to “disappointed”, foolish.

    Nonetheless a tip: I see you got meanwhile many complaints about plugin functionality, or rather not. I would strongly suggest you respond to both complaints in reviews (1 star certainly) and in support. Just comment, would give you a much better standing. 😉

    Other than that: Given how many problems the plugin creates, and you seem to address/answer none, I’d pull the plug, retire it, revise it, then revive it. Just what I would do. Better would have been to fully test it first.

    stefiemeekers

    (@stefiemeekers)

    10 years, 3 months ago

    Hi,

    I installed your plug-in on my site a few weeks ago.
    Google webmaster tools is saying that I have 0 indexed AMP pages and 19 AMP pages with errors.
    The errors listed are the following:

    Error Pages with errors
    Incorrectly nested tag 19
    Invalid attribute value 19
    Prohibited attribute 17
    Unknown syntax error 16
    Error in schema.org NewsArticle 14
    Missing supported structured data element 1
    Prohibited tag 1

    I also received a mail from google saying that the AMP pages do not meet their guide lines and will not show in google search.

    Any tips on how to fix the problems?

    When I remove your app I am left with a copy of each page with /?noamp
    Is this going to harm my site having identical pages?
    Can I remove all these extra pages if I decide not to use the app?

    Thanks and Kind regards
    Stefie
    http://www.maltabudget.com

    Plugin Author Ahmed Kaludi

    (@ahmedkaludi)

    9 years, 11 months ago

    Hey Stefie,

    We have just released an update of this plugin. Please try it and it should fix webmaster tools errors.

    Regards,
    Ahmed

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