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  • Thread Starter brianbotkiller

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    Right, my point here is that despite the fact that I just paid for premium, and have a receipt, the MP site doesn’t recognize that, doesn’t have my license, and doesn’t let me put in a premium support ticket. Hence, since there are NO OTHER routes to go about to get support, I came here. THANKS!

    Thread Starter brianbotkiller

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    Well, ok, but this isn’t built into the theme. This is a general javascript thing. This has nothing to do with the theme, save that a theme that is yes, commercial, is being used. However, if I were to change the theme to a WP “ok” theme, it does the same thing.

    I’m just looking for input. Not theme support. Thanks.

    Thread Starter brianbotkiller

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    Ah! Figured it out. Hyperlink wasn’t working quite properly. Thanks!

    Thread Starter brianbotkiller

    (@brianbotkiller)

    Hey there,

    In my general settings, I have https://www.obedia.com set as the URL for the page.

    Yeah – when I hardcoded, my code is a normal hyperlink, and is set to that location on my server – however, WP is randomly deciding to put https://www.obedia.com/ in front of panel.obedia.com – can’t understand why.

    thanks for reading.

    Forum: Fixing WordPress
    In reply to: permalink question
    Thread Starter brianbotkiller

    (@brianbotkiller)

    i’m an idiot. emptied my trash and all’s well. thanks.

    Otto: two things.

    1. As I understand, the new WP 2.7 dashboard makes a more heavy usage of java. From what I see, this is slowing down operations on the backend quite a lot. Indeed, it even feels slower than 2.6 when installed locally. Posts take longer to process, switching between modules takes longer.

    2. PHP calls. I’m seeing more time in PHP GET requests than previous installations – and this is on many different webhosts. This might also tie into caching issues, as well.

    The bottom line is, for me, and maybe for these other users pointing out that they’ve seen slowdown since upgrading, that 2.7’s extra bells seem to be causing slowdown. Moreover, a 2.7 install running the usual gamut of WP speed-up plugins, such as WP super cache, PHP speedy, and a .htaccess that’s been “streamlined” still feels sluggish.

    We can’t all tell you the exact things that go down, we can only tell you what we see, and what we suspect. We know that you guys work hard at what you do, and you’ve made a great format with WP. We also know that it can’t all work for everyone, the nature of software states that that is just not really possible. But, we do also know that when we see and feel a difference between a previous upgrade and a new one, it is a real thing, not just a bunch of people imagining things (not that you suggest this, but many WP forum contributors have).

    That’s just my thoughts – as I say, I could be wrong – but the extra java usage for menus and the like, combined with something in PHP calls just seemingly hitting a bottleneck, are the things that I see.

    Yup. 2.7 is slow. Of course, we will all be told that it’s our host’s problem, or that our code is crap, etc… but the fact is that many users are experiencing a lot of slowness with 2.7 after upping from 2.6, regardless of host, it seems, as I’ve seen a lot of host names put up here by everyone. modifying .htaccess, installing numerous speed plugins and more still isn’t enough – even a fresh, totally blank WP 2.7 install is slow, and I’ve tried this on three hosts now, all of which (I believe) are “suggested” by WP: godaddy, bluehost, and dreamhost. Slow in all instances.

    So, either we’re all crazy (which we’ll be accused of), or indeed, something is not talking right. The latter is the case – no one’s being judgemental, WP guys, we love what you do – but we’re stating here and now that the extra java usage in the WP admin panel, as well as how WP seems to be handling php and other issues, is causing some serious slowdown.

    Thread Starter brianbotkiller

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    Look, I apologize for coming off sour, but, the fact is that WP 2.6 ran faster than 2.7. I’ve been on this same hosting, with this same setup, for over a year, running the whole time, and not experienced the kind of slowdown that came with 2.7.

    I’m no “blaming” poor little WP. I’m pointing out that running basic php and mysql queries still runs fast, but WP does not, even on “slow” shared hosting.

    And as to me “rambling”, I didn’t ramble, thanks. I pointed out the issue I was having, and asked for help. I said that I already knew I was on a webhost that everyone would say “is this worst around”, as that’s the general response to GD here on the WP forums. I explained that the issues I was having became prevalent in WP 2.7 – and then I pointed out that I found that Nextgen gallery has issues with thickbox.js, which is documented in other user’s issues, and it especially has issues when installed alongside WPecommerce – guess what? Both of those plugins were installed on my backend, as I had considered using WPecommerce. It’s well-known now that there are issues between these two plugins using thickbox.js and having problems with each other.

    So, while I’m glad that you took the time to visit my site and have a hearty laugh at my tweets and site speed, I still stand by the fact that my having cleaned out Nextgen gallery, as well as a number of other tables, -has- changed things, and that since “upgrading” to WP 2.7, I -have- seen increased load times, and slower database calls, and so have many other users.

    In my final closing, I’ll say this. Figaro gave a bit of insight, that as I say, *would* have been useful, had he not followed my reply up with “If you say so…”, which was a snarky, useless comment geared simply at saying “You’re wrong, there’s nothing else that could be going wrong, because I would DARE to say that I A.) know that godaddy shared hosting is slow; and B.) despite that, I still know that something else is wrong, WHICH I POINTED OUT when I removed NG gallery.

    Thread Starter brianbotkiller

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    Apologies, I should say, an answer that initially could be useful, followed by a snarky response because I dare say that “yes, I realize that, and I’ve checked it, there’s something else going on”.

    Because “If you say so” was such an informative answer, and obviously not meant to sound smarty, I’m sure.

    Thread Starter brianbotkiller

    (@brianbotkiller)

    sigh. yes. I’m the wrong one, I’ll make sure to admit defeat immediately the next time I get an answer that doesn’t address what I’d asked. Thanks for reminding me.

    Thread Starter brianbotkiller

    (@brianbotkiller)

    @figaro: don’t insult my intelligence, thanks – you didn’t provide a lick of useful information, as I stated in my ORIGINAL post, I already knew what you were saying. I’m not in the mood to talk to trolls, so I’m gonna choose to ignore you as best as possible.

    @ Chris K – I have been enabling and disabling the music player widget, with different results. The nearest issue I can see is that Nextgen gallery was indeed causing a big bottleneck due to it’s calls to the thickbox library, but disabling it using thickbox didn’t change things much. Turning off AND removing nextgen gallery did, which I’m fine with if it gets me past the bottleneck – which it definitely did in some way, that plugin obviously has some issues.

    The big thing I’ve been preoccupied with now is getting other bits up to be faster, such as gzipping components and connfiguring E-tags. Right now the two big ones is gzipping and the expires header – both of which I have done some tweaks to in my .htaccess, but have yet to see many changes.

    right now my Y-slow rating is 78 on my entry page, which is good, but I want it higher – and that is with the player widget taken off. It’s unfortunate that a flash widget with a footprint of 130k can still cause loading issues.

    I realize I could change much of this by installing Eaccelerator (but I can’t do that because I’m on shared hosting), and getting a dedicated host – but I’m not in a position to spend $30 a month on hosting right now, so all I can do is make everything as clean as I can, and hope that it speeds up from there.

    On thing I am seeing is that, the jquery library is being autoloaded by WP, but I can’t find where it is (IE, what .php file) that it’s being auto loaded. It’s not in any of my theme’s files, so it must be in a WP system file? Can someone tell me where it is that jquery is autoloaded, so that I can move it further down in the hierarchy, which is shown to improve load times? I’ve looked in the wp-blogheader.php, wp-load.php, and other WP files, but to no avail. I know it’s there, because a view source shows it as loading right in the header.

    Thread Starter brianbotkiller

    (@brianbotkiller)

    Okay, if you say so…

    Yeah, I do say so. You didn’t offer too much. If you did, I would have agreed with you, wouldn’t I? I already pointed out in my first post that I know I”m hosted on Godaddy on a shared hosting account. I GET that, I didn’t ask you to tell me how many websites were hosted alongside mine. I brought up that my ISSUE was related to WordPress.

    I love the WP forums. Asking questions usually gets the smartass answers, enough of them to make you not bother coming back.

    Anyway, much of the issue here seems to be related to Nextgen gallery, a pretty little plugin but one that horks up a number of things after its install and after its been shut off. In this case, the problem is at least in some way stemming from the fact that the Thickbox JS code is horking up my website in many ways. Disabling Nextgen, as well as doing away with a bunch of Java in wp-includes/js, has brought the speed level up more.

    I do know for sure now that I won’t be installing Nexgengallery again, because it’s obviously a hog with major issues.

    Thread Starter brianbotkiller

    (@brianbotkiller)

    As I said, figaro, I realize that. There’s something much more heinous going on here.

    Seems like there’s not, which just seems odd.

    Anyone? Anyone?
    Alex?

    Yeah guys, you tell ’em for asking a question in a support forum.

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