briesmith
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Forum: Localhost Installs
In reply to: Can't Access WordPress via Browser@ esmi I don’t intend to write plug-ins so PHP is an irrelevance to me.
@ Seacost Web Design You’ve missed the point; I am the host. And you confirm what I said in my very first post “Any assertion of the existence of a 5 minute install needs to be severely caveated with the warning that this only applies when installing on a commercial host which has done all the preparatory work.”
I’d add that statements like, “differentiate the use of web.config vs. .htaccess and file permissions” are just completely unhelpful. I know it’s English and I know what each word means individually but as a statement what on Earth does it mean?
It’s absolutely typical of so much that gets posted here in that it shows a total lack of understanding of how to explain something. It makes every mistake a technical writer can make. No context – the old who, what, why and where stuff. It assumes a level of understanding in the reader that probably doesn’t exist and it provides no referential information; how to find what is being talked about, how to do what is being talked about and how to check when done that it has been done correctly.
I know you meant well and like any poster on any forum, I am grateful for any and every attempt to help me but I think we all need a short 101 in how to write technical help narrative.
Forum: Localhost Installs
In reply to: Can't Access WordPress via BrowserJust my own websites. If I ever branch out into hosting other people’s I’ll make the necessary investment in physical firewalls etc.
I don’t understand your comment about Linux/Apache. Sounds like simple prejudice to me.
The idea that Linux/Apache takes away whatever Windows Server/IIS doesn’t; that the back bedroom boys who developed Linux and Apache were somehow just naturally cleverer than the back bedroom boys working for Microsoft; I mean, where does such a belief come from? Where’s your evidence for it?
It’s bad enough having to learn about PHP (I have to ask, who needs it these days?), MySQL and all the other bits and pieces surrounding these products before I can begin to use the product I actually want without having to fight my way through the total mess that is Linux (which distie and version is today’s recommendation?) and Apache. I mean, I’d have to use their forums as well as WordPress’s and you can guess how much joy I’d find there from my experience to date on this one.
That’s not something I’d willingly contemplate. I’ve used Windows products for over 20 years and the notion that there was someone much cleverer, producing much better products all the while I did so is just fanciful.
I would turn round your statement and say that if WordPress are a serious outfit with long term plans they should make sure they have a completely bulletproof Windows Server implementation.
Forum: Localhost Installs
In reply to: Can't Access WordPress via BrowserWhy it is doing this I do not know, a few comments on www says it could be related to PHP, but nothing concrete. My plan is to
• remove PHP, MySQL and WordPress
• remove ASP website
• uninstall IIS
• Reboot server
• reinstall IIS and test
• reinstall ASP website and test
• reinstall PHP, MySQL etc and test
• reinstall WordPress and testAt the moment we do not know what (if any) changes installing PHP, MySQL and WordPress has made to IIS, so starting from a clean sheet is probably the best option.
But it’s a lot of work and I could find myself back exactly where I started. This just bears out my point that talk of a 5 minute (to say nothing of 3) install is just pie in the sky nonsense.
It shouldn’t be this hard; diagnostics should have been developed by now. After all, all the products are mature and must have been installed in the combination I am installing them 1,000s of times.
I’ll let you know how I get on.
As for why am I doing this; it’s to take advantage of the speed increases technology like BT’s Infinity here in the UK provides and to get away from the expensive and consistently poor and unreliable performance most UK ISPs – all those I’ve tried anyway – provide.
There’s no reason not to use WordPress – I prefer it to DotNetNuke, Joomla, Drupal etc – and good servers are inexpensive. I bought a dual Xenon HP Proliant ML350 on eBay for less than £250. This will be paid back in 6 months or less by cancelling my hosting contract with Webfusion.
Forum: Localhost Installs
In reply to: Can't Access WordPress via BrowserOK, I’ll do that but am I really the first WordPress installation ever to report that clicking Log In (or some other WordPress page link) hangs their browser?
We don’t even know that there is an error condition. The Log In page could be trying to do something perfectly correctly that just doesn’t work. Like trying a legal operation repeatedly. There is no reason to suppose an error condition has been raised. The browser simply hangs trying to render the page; it doesn’t crash and as far as I am aware no other process has crashed either.
I think you should change your name to Delphi. It may be me, the way I’ve approached this issue and if it is then I apologise. I may just be worn out after nearly 3 days fighting with this but I have to say that while you have clearly helped, it’s been a bit like pulling teeth.
I don’t understand the antagonistic way you couch your questions or the slightly impenetrable way you phrase your responses. It’s almost as though you consider I have committed some sort of sin by trying to install WordPress, while installing it or by coming onto this forum with my problem; or all three.
Or perhaps you just think that anybody who can’t do whatever it is they need to do with WordPress is some sort of failed person?
Whatever the motivation it doesn’t reflect well on WordPress. If I ever find out why Log In failed I’ll post the reason here so that any other inadequate needn’t trouble you.
Forum: Localhost Installs
In reply to: Can't Access WordPress via BrowserThere’s nothing in Event Viewer. It seems I need to monitor wp-login.php as it is rendered in the browser to try and identify at which point the browser stops.
Is it possible to set debug options with WordPress so that I can get checkpoints?
Forum: Localhost Installs
In reply to: Can't Access WordPress via BrowserI’ve had a look at wp-login.php and it’s a massive script and on my server is unformatted with no end of line formatting. Debugging it would be very difficult…
Forum: Localhost Installs
In reply to: Can't Access WordPress via BrowserYes, there are two navigation tabs Home and Sample Page; I can move between them OK.
There is also an on-page hyperlink 1 Reply which brings up the reply form if I click it.
The same goes for the Hello World link.
The login link is http://81.174.146.90/wordpress/wp-login.php. Should I check what wp-login.php does?
Where will I find the relevant server error log?
Forum: Localhost Installs
In reply to: Can't Access WordPress via BrowserYes.
Forum: Localhost Installs
In reply to: Can't Access WordPress via BrowserOK; I’ve done that. Got a formatted welcome page (which is progress thank you) but clicking LogIn causes the browser to hang waiting for a response from WordPress.
Forum: Localhost Installs
In reply to: Can't Access WordPress via BrowserOK; how/where do I set these?
Forum: Localhost Installs
In reply to: Can't Access WordPress via BrowserI should possibly add that http://81.174.146.90/phpmyadmin works fine.
Forum: Localhost Installs
In reply to: Can't Access WordPress via BrowserFrom outside I am using the external URL 81.174.146.90 in the format http://81.174.146.90/wordpress. This brings up an unformatted (no CSS) WordPress welcome page but if I try and navigate anywhere from there I get a localhost/something URL generated and the browser hangs.
Forum: Localhost Installs
In reply to: Can't Access WordPress via BrowserUsing PHPMyAdmin and looking at WordPress/wp_options I see
siteurl http://localhost/wordpress yes
Is that the only reference to a URL you need to know?
Forum: Localhost Installs
In reply to: Can't Access WordPress via BrowserDon’t know; I entered the URl into so many places so many times; is there something I can run that will tell me the value? I am physically sat at the server.
Forum: Localhost Installs
In reply to: Can't Access WordPress via BrowserI assumed you meant the external URL 81.174.146.90 which is a static IP address provided by my ISP. It’s the only URL I’ve seen mentioned anywhere apart from localhost which from memory is 127.0.0.1.