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  • Thread Starter gadlen

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    Done and thanks WPyogi!

    Thread Starter gadlen

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    Hey Beaver6813, I just tried the new version and yes your fix works perfectly. You’ve rocked it. 🙂

    Forum: Plugins
    In reply to: [WPBook] WPBook broken
    Thread Starter gadlen

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    Hmm, why is 2.1.1 not showing up as the default version to upgrade to at http://ww.wp.xz.cn/extend/plugins/wpbook/ ? I’ll try your suggestions later tonight. Thanks.

    Thread Starter gadlen

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    That fixed it! Thank you!

    Thread Starter gadlen

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    Oop! I thought en.grand-NOSPAMpianos.org was dropping comment spam but it’s trackback spam. I should have looked closer.

    Please ignore this thread.

    I’ve found the same problem with WP 2.8.1. I didn’t see the problem with 2.7.1. Here’s a simple way to reproduce it:

    1: enable db-cache
    2: write a wordpress comment
    3: edit and save the comment
    3a: Note that the edit doesn’t take, instead you still see the old comment 🙁
    4: disable db-cache
    5: edit and save the comment
    5a: Note that the edit is accepted ok 🙂

    This is a totally groovy plugin. It gives a nice performance boost to WordPress. I hope an update is easy to implement.

    Thread Starter gadlen

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    Otto, I have taken a look at your many recent posts on the WordPress forums. You appear to be excellent at discussing very precise problems that users are having.

    The issue I raised is more of a general design issue. I thank you for pointing me toward the Contributing to WordPress link.

    The project would benefit if you worded your comments with less vitriol on issues that you disagree with.

    Thread Starter gadlen

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    Otto wrote
    >You could have certainly fooled me, because every argument you make
    >is specious, flawed, unreasonable, and occasionally downright silly.

    Remember when I mentioned that your comment had a “tone of nasty sarcasm”. You’ve gone past that. As you point out, “text is not a perfect medium” but you’re writing pretty clearly here. 🙁

    It seems that you’re not reading my comments carefully. For example, I wrote, “The modal windows and multiple steps required to upload images that were introduced in 2.5 take up a lot of user time. Can this be remedied? Who might I work with to improve this situation?” It seems that you didn’t read my third sentence (the last sentence of my comment) because you ranted for 3 paragraphs about how I was complaining without wanting to do anything about it. So I’ll ask again… who might I work with to improve this situation?

    I’m not currently developing for WordPress. I was considering doing so but I didn’t know where to start or who to start with to get in the loop. Otto, your nastygram has done nothing to welcome me. 🙁

    Otto, let me address a few of your specific comments:
    You mention looking in http://ww.wp.xz.cn/extend/plugins/ for (I presume) image upload plugins. I have. I haven’t found any plugins compatible with WP 2.5+ that allow a different way to upload images than the default method.

    >It’s not going to be in 2.7. WordPress 2.7 is in feature freeze
    Ok, how about 2.8?

    >In the long run, there was a “Media” panel on the Post screen in
    >some of the early alphas after the crazyhorse migration. It never
    >got fleshed out, and so was eliminated. However it might make a
    >comeback for 2.8, and I could see it having an AJAX quick-uploader
    >widget in it, as well as selection of photos for direct insertion
    >into the post. But it won’t have the functionality of features of
    >the modal dialog, and it probably won’t support captions, galleries,
    >all the good stuff.

    That would be wonderful.

    I’m a bit put-out that you called my suggestion of this feature “specious, flawed, unreasonable, and occasionally downright silly”. While Jasondunn’s suggestion received a very positive response. No matter, all I want is a WordPress that is a joy to use.

    Is it really true that iframe is deprecated? I can’t find any confirmation of this.

    Thread Starter gadlen

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    Otto, your comment seems to have a tone of nasty sarcasm. I don’t understand your anger. I’m really trying to make WordPress better.

    >First, note that I was demonstrating the use of the thing, not the
    >speed at which it could be used.

    You said that uploading in 2.7 was “fast as heck” and I had previously disagreed, saying it was “slow and cumbersome”. Therefore I demonstrated the speed. I don’t understand why you would fault me for demonstrating the very thing I said I was going to demonstrate.

    >Second, you uploaded one picture and wrote a quick post. Big whoop.
    >You also have no caption on your image, no gallery functionality, and
    >you only uploaded one image. I uploaded 4 images, could have stuck the
    >gallery in (but I didn’t), and those 4 images each got their own post
    >which get special handling by my theme’s image.php file.

    > no caption
    I haven’t been able to get captions to work properly on my own blog theme. Which is I suppose my own problem. Though I haven’t seen it used much on other blogs. The majority of the photos on your own blog don’t use captions (4 of the 6 since June).

    >no gallery functionality
    Such functionality could be worked into any image upload system. While I’m still not convinced the current version of the gallery functionality built into WordPress is a good idea, that is a topic for another discussion.

    >and you only uploaded one image. I uploaded 4 images
    I can make another screencast where I upload 4 images instead of one but the results will be the same. I can’t see how you’re arguing that WP2.7 image upload is faster than WP2.3.

    >Your way only seemed faster, because you did perhaps a quarter of the
    >stuff that I did.
    I disagree. Here are the things that you waited for that I did not:
    * You clicked on “Upload Media” and waited 5 seconds for the next screen to appear.
    * You started the image upload and waited 18 seconds on a modal window for them to upload (note that they were small, < 200kb images. I uploaded a 1.5mb image concurrent to writing)
    * You spent 15 seconds setting image preferences that (I believe) should have already been defaulted.

    In those 38 wasted seconds, I typed my post.
    38 seconds is a loooong time to wait for nothing every time you write a post with images.

    >Furthermore, your “post” was essentially useless as well. Do you
    >really knock off your blog posts in a matter of minutes

    Well, actually, yes.
    And if your blog is any indication, then so do you the majority of the time. The majority of the time your posts are just about the same length as the demonstration I gave… a few sentences and an image or link.

    The whole purpose of my commenting here is to hopefully make writing WordPress posts easier and faster. I’m not here to argue for the sake of arguing.

    So I’ll ask this one last time: how can WordPress image uploading be made faster? The modal windows and multiple steps required to upload images that were introduced in 2.5 take up a lot of user time. Can this be remedied? Who might I work with to improve this situation?

    Thread Starter gadlen

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    Now that I’ve demonstrated the issue, where do we go from here?

    PS, that Jing/Screencast thingamajig is pretty neat.

    Thread Starter gadlen

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    While I’m at it, I should mention 2 additional tools that I used until WP 2.5. These tools made uploading and manipulating images faster and better than exist in WP 2.5+.

    DragDropUpload is a Firefox plugin that lets you drag and drop filenames with their path information. So if you have a regular text box, you can drag and drop the file from Windows Explorer and then click the “upload” button. This works in WP 2.3 but the blog poster cannot use this in 2.5+ because there is no text box to drag to.

    Flexible Upload is a WordPress plugin that allows a poster to change the image thumbnail size and the final image size easily. This works in WP 2.3 but not 2.5+ because of the radical changes in the image upload system. The options and flexibility that this plugin give you are not available in WP 2.5+.

    Thread Starter gadlen

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    Otto, I’ll show you exactly the speed difference between WordPress 2.3 and 2.7. In this screencast, I wrote my entire post, where I write a few sentences, upload a 1.5 mb image and place that image exactly where I want it in the same time it took you just to upload your images.

    You can see your screencast on the right and me typing is on on the left.

    I hope this helps show what I’m talking about.

    http://screencast.com/t/qqupDSRyA

    Thanks for the suggestion Otto42. I haven’t upgraded to 2.7. I took a look at the 2.7 wireframe and it doesn’t have the fixes I need to make is usable. Firstly, making image uploads as easy as it was in 2.3. That complaint is echoed here and here

    I’m terribly sad. I’ve been running with 2.5 and now 2.6 for a few months now. I tried to like it. I really did but I can’t stand the interface.

    Phoey, if I could rollback my 2.6.1 database to 2.3, I’d not be cursing WordPress every freaking day.

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