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Forum: Plugins
In reply to: [Plugin: Post Notification] – Send from post author email?I appologize in advance… rather than answering your question , I will ask another. (Who knows, maybe this will get more action on your post anyway.)
When people register and post on your blog, do you think they are signing up with the expectation they will receive all that reply email, including all the junky bounce notifications and all that? Just that issue should give you pause… when they get delivery problem notices, you are unintentionally distributing email addresses of some users to other users. I think the whole idea is pretty frought, and will even move nice juicy conversations off of your blog site into priivate emails, what good does that do your site?
–EDIT:– Just realized you may be saying you have a group of authors, and each should handle their own post-related stuff. I was thinking you were talking about COMMENTS and the authors of the comments, not posts. If not, sorry.
If YOU don’t want to receive the replies, then you should find a way to change the “from” address on the notices to a “no-reply” address.
Forum: Fixing WordPress
In reply to: sending mail — class-phpmailerNay, nay, thank you! lol.
I think I was pretty clear in each posting that the underlying email problem was just sort of the context for my specific questions.
My real questions are: Is this class-phpmailer “include” actually active in the code? Is there some PROPER place to change the options available in phpmailer? I gather I am not actually meant to HACK the original code (if for no other reason, because upgrades will be a serious pain)…
I was looking for guidance on digging into the coding concepts involved, sort of using this as an example. After talking past eachother a couple times, it ends up you have helped me very much. I was coming to the same conclusion that basically people have made the plugins to fill this (somewhat gaping) hole. And now I will probably follow your guidance and look at the code, experiment, and then probably just make a more informed decision on which plugin to use.
I am really surprised the code gods have not just picked one of the available plugins and included it in the distribution of the software, at least as a default (like they include a couple themes).
Forum: Fixing WordPress
In reply to: sending mail — class-phpmailerI wish someone would just help me with the question I am asking rather than trying to solve the underlying problem.
But… to address the specifics even more specifically…These installations are on Windows-based hosts in a cluster at a hosting company. Different services are on different servers. localhost probably does not have SMTP services enabled. the sendmail function used by wordpress by default is probably not working either intentionally for security reasons or because of some config issue at the hosting company. I am assuming all that.
Yes, these domains have mail services enabled and have working mailboxes, but I don’t see how that is relevant. There is no place in WordPress config that ASKS for SMTP info(server, user, pass), So it must be using some anonymous method from “localhost”. It can’t be trying to use SMTP through an existing account (at least not with any authentication, and probably not on the right server). I have tested the Registration process using multiple (working) destination addresses and it never works. I am not surprised by this. I want to try other methods of sending the mail, or provide proper SMTP info so it will work in a way that is compatable with the services and servers at my hosting company… and without them needing to make some security exception or special config for these blogs to work right. (And yes, I have asked for help on their forum as well.)
The plugins we have mentioned seem to allow for this… but SO DOES THE class-phpmailer.php CODE. As a user/admin of a wordpress blog, I am most curious to know the best way to USE the options available there. This is not just to get this job done, but I want to learn something about the way this stuff is coded and used as well, and my general preference to keep the installation as simple as possible (few plugins) to get the basic functions working (for future potential instalations, etc.)
Please, this is a coding/php issue I am asking about now, not so much a mail issue.
Forum: Fixing WordPress
In reply to: sending mail — class-phpmailerI’m afraid I may have misunderstood you completely. And I am still not clear about what is you “want to do”. I assumed that you had an issue with no SMTP server connection or incorrect authentication against a mail server, resulting in a lack of all mail delivery.
If not completely, pretty close. You are correct that my original problem was complete “lack of all mail delivery” from my wordpress installation to new registrants or even to the admin.
(However, it was never an SMTP issue, because by default “WordPress uses the standard php mail function, which uses sendmail. No account information is needed.” (FAQ))
Now, you and I agree that there are plenty of plugins that seem to do things that will allow me to solve my problem. Great, and I will probably end up using one of those.
But before I go that route, I want to explore WHY a little bit, and why not use the tools available when code supplied with wordpress seems to have everything necessary (except maybe an interface). “includes/class-phpmailer.php” seems to have a lot of capabilities. Can someone help me learn how to USE them without hacking the code itself? What is the best way to change the default values in that code in order to customize the mail-sending method of my wordpress?
Thanks.
Forum: Fixing WordPress
In reply to: sending mail — class-phpmailerThey are on paid Windows accounts at JodoHost.
But, I would rather know the answer to my questions. I would like to know how to use the features that are apparently included in the WordPress code provided.
I have found 2 plugins that look like they will solve the problem:
http://ww.wp.xz.cn/extend/plugins/wp-mail-smtp/
and
http://ww.wp.xz.cn/extend/plugins/xpertmailer-advanced-php-mail-engine/These seem to do what I want — they offer more options for setting up outgoing mail. BUT the class-phpmailer.php seems to have all of these things (or many) built in, but no interface or instructions on how to change the defaults without hacking the file itself, which I would obv not prefer to do. I would also prefer not to use a plugin if the necssary functions are built in without them… and the plugins seem like cheating when I would rather learn something.
Maybe it is a simple issue, but I am not much of a php guy (or even much of a web guy). But I am an applications developer, so I am sure I could handle it if someone would point me, or give me an example to start with. Thanks.